jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 03:28:22 PM new
Lately. 
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 03:34:24 PM new
If you should happen to run into the original James...tell him I noticed...okay?
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 03:37:09 PM new
Oh, that's right. I'm a jamesoblivionbot, engineered by crack AW programmers. How'm I holding up?
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 03:38:05 PM new
Not that good, obviously. Since you noticed.
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 03:48:33 PM new
And there you have it...
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 1, 2001 03:51:27 PM new
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pattaylor
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posted on June 1, 2001 04:15:04 PM new
Huh?
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Antiquary
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posted on June 1, 2001 04:43:39 PM new
Is this an automated thread???? 
McVeigh's violent and senseless protest has had the opposite effect than that intended on the "Patriot's Movement" according to the Summer 2001 Intelligence Report of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project, which keeps track of extremist right wing movements. The article below outlines their information.
http://www.splcenter.org/intelligenceproject/ip-index.html
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twinsoft
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posted on June 1, 2001 04:48:42 PM new
As heinous the crime, McV deserves due process just like anyone. A rush to judgement (execution) is not in our interest as deomocratic Americans. Whatever McV's motives, whether it be just to sling mud at the government, it should not be forgotten that witholding of evidence and tampering by the FBI must not tolerated. Our entire system of government including the courts is terribly corrupt. Looking the other way when a defendant is robbed of his rights affects everyone, guilty or innocent.
[ edited by twinsoft on Jun 1, 2001 04:53 PM ]
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 04:51:31 PM new
pattaylor...
And well might you ask... It's the universal "huh"...lol
Ponder James yesterday...and James today. 
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 04:59:01 PM new
BTW...
I'm fine with McVeigh alive. In solitary for the rest of his days. OR in a State Penn...in the general population. THAT could be a bit of justice, a mite overdue....
NOT a Federal facility...please. I think just a tad of penitence is in order... I prefer he not play golf.....
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Hjw
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posted on June 1, 2001 05:25:22 PM new
It appears that we will have some difficulty discussing the fate of Tim McVeigh while the queen of smart elk, toke, and AKA Jamesoblivion continue to banter back and forth about nothing.
Well, Toke, who is this new "Jamesoblivion?"
I think I know...
Helen
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Hjw
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posted on June 1, 2001 05:40:41 PM new
Apparently, I have managed to render the
queen of smart elk, speechless?
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Hjw
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posted on June 1, 2001 05:44:48 PM new
Good.
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pattaylor
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posted on June 1, 2001 05:52:30 PM new
HJW,
Your last three posts are very close the line. Please remember that your posts should reflect respect and consideration for your fellow members at all times.
Thanks for your cooperation.
Pat
[email protected]
[ edited by pattaylor on Jun 1, 2001 05:53 PM ]
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 05:56:27 PM new
It's okay, Pat. She really can't help herself.
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Hjw
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:00:42 PM new
pattaylor
It's just a joke between toke and me. I really did not intend to show disrespect to
toke.
Toke, You are still the queen!
Helen
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sNOWyegReT
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:14:51 PM new
James, it's good to see, errrr, whoever posting again.
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toke
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:17:49 PM new
Hjw...
Hey... I need to go...you can have at me tomorrow...
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Hjw
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:25:08 PM new
Toke
Antiquary,
What a frightening number of hate groups in this country! I really
didn't realize the scope of the problem until I checked out your link.
Thanks for posting it!
Helen
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gravid
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:31:38 PM new
Well at least the guy was not smart enough to build nuclear weapons. Consider what a mess that would have been.
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zilvy
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:35:00 PM new
Some here seem to have joined the SMARMY
SMILIE GROUP..now is that extreme right wing or just a klannish thang?
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zilvy
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:35:23 PM new
dbl trbl
[ edited by zilvy on Jun 1, 2001 06:36 PM ]
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Antiquary
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:50:02 PM new
I just tried the link I provided and it doesn't lead you directly to the article itself, "The Rise and Fall of the Patriots." Apparently you can't copy a link directly to it, (tried again), but if you follow the links provided on the introductory page, you will be led to the latest Intelligence Report. Other interesting articles there also.
Yes, Helen, it is amazing and they are all documented. Who would have thought that one could develop such discriminatingly fine tastes in hate as to have numerous alternatives for specialization.
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MrsSantaClaus
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posted on June 1, 2001 06:59:08 PM new
Maybe McVeigh realized where he was going AFTER his big event .... and he wanted to stay up here in the cool air for a bit longer ......
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Hjw
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posted on June 1, 2001 07:18:33 PM new
Antiquary,
"Who would have thought that one could develop such discriminatingly fine tastes in hate as to have numerous alternatives for specialization."
Your writing just takes my breath away.
"discriminatingly fine tastes in hate"
It is unbelievable.I am going to return to
the article because I think that I missed the article that you are specifically referring to.
Helen
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Hjw
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posted on June 1, 2001 08:10:10 PM new
Well, it appears that there is a trend toward
leaving the militia activity in favor of smaller hard line groups. Isn't it interesting that fear is motivating so much hate. Fear of the government as villains...
based on such incidents as Ruby Ridge and Waco, fear of gun control, fear of job loss because of trade agreements, fear of arrests
and ironically, fear of their own particular hate group!
Good article, Antiquary!
Helen
sp ed.
[ edited by Hjw on Jun 1, 2001 08:16 PM ]
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Antiquary
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posted on June 1, 2001 08:28:28 PM new
Hi, I was away for a while. Glad you liked the phrase. It's encouraging that interest in the most extreme groups is declining. The impression I get is that the McVeigh bombing in particular had a sobering effect on many extremists.
By analogy, I've hoped that the Bush presidency will be the climax of the movement toward political control by the far right.
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hepburn
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posted on June 1, 2001 08:41:15 PM new
Brown=nose.
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Hjw
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posted on June 1, 2001 08:50:47 PM new
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