breinhold
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posted on September 19, 2000 08:46:36 PM
what does that mean on ebay? why are new reproductions of old item allowed to be called vintage in the title? its a waste of time clicking on a great title "vintage bla bla bla" only to find out burried some place in the center of the description it says its a reproduction.
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mzalez
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posted on September 19, 2000 09:05:00 PM
I use the term vintage, but always include the era it is vintage to. For example, "VINTAGE 1970s".
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nowwhat
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posted on September 19, 2000 09:13:03 PM
Your post has me thinking that eBay should require that reproductions are identified in the title. It will never happen though.
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Valleygirl
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posted on September 19, 2000 09:16:16 PM
Vintage means "from the era of". So a "vintage" hippy outfit would be from the '60's. A flapper outfit would be "vintage" '20's. Dayglo would be "vintage" '80's.
On ebay, some people use "vintage" in place of actual age. I guess I'm guilty of that too. I sold a beautiful beaded purse from the estate of a woman who died at 90. It had pantina on the silver and really looked like something from the '40's or '50's. Maybe earlier. I called it vintage, cause I didn't know what else to call it.
Not my name on ebay.
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cariad
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posted on September 19, 2000 09:35:14 PM
I have used vintage as descriptive of items from 30's to 60's time period. I don't consider something made last week, last year or even last decade as being "vintage", so maybe it is overused.
cariad
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pickersangel
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posted on September 20, 2000 06:10:26 AM
It may be overused (and I'm one of the guilty ones  ), but how else would you describe an item of quality with some age on it that isn't yet "antique"? "OLD" just isn't attractive. New reproductions are definitely NOT "vintage".
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wisegirl
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posted on September 20, 2000 07:15:13 AM
My sister is a seller on eBay and I help her with her write-ups. We never use the term "vintage" - we use the actual decade in the titles, i.e. "1950s Cup and Saucer."
Another irritant: Using a term such as "Edwardian" or "Victorian" in the title for a piece of jewelry, then looking at the item only to discover that it is "Edwardian-like" and was made in 1999. There really ought to be a separate listing for faux Edwardian or Victorian to separate the original, collectible items from the copies. A true collector of Victorian jewelry (me) is not interested in contemporary pieces and it's a terrible waste of time to try to find to "real" thing amidst all the knock-offs.
Don't get me started on the indiscriminate use in listings of the term "antique."
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breinhold
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posted on September 20, 2000 07:21:59 AM
i agree with every response from all the above honest people. vintage 1970s means just that. but a reproduction photograph from an old negative is not vintage , it is a reproduction. so i avoid the word vintage now because it looks like it is hiding the truth. i would like to use the word vintage in my titles but now only use the word "old" just to seperate myself from the abuse of the word vintage.
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HartCottageQuilts
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posted on September 20, 2000 08:19:54 AM
My favorite is "Victorian", which apparently means anything hideously overdone.
The appropriate word for reproduction pieces is "repro" (duh).
New pieces which look stylishly old could be called "retro", which according to Webster's applies to items "relating to, reviving, or being the styles and especially the fashions of the past : fashionably nostalgic or old-fashioned".
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Valleygirl
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posted on September 20, 2000 08:22:16 AM
>>My sister is a seller on eBay and I help her with her write-ups. We never use the term "vintage" - we use the actual decade in the titles, i.e. "1950s Cup and Saucer." <<
I wouldn't use vintage in this case either. Vintage more describes a fad in a particular era. That's why I used the hippy description.
Hippy, flapper, and dayglo all describe fads unique to certain eras. So if the item is authentic to the era it is "vintage".
Not my name on ebay.
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HartCottageQuilts
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posted on September 20, 2000 02:08:23 PM
Unfortunately, like "functionality" and "deplane", "vintage" is part of the national lexicon. "Vintage Clothing" is even a Yellow Pages classification. That doesn't make using it right; however I would suggest using it as a seller - and reading it as a bidder - with care.
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CoolTom-07
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posted on September 20, 2000 02:15:01 PM
If it's 50 years old can I call it a "semi-antique"? 
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breinhold
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posted on September 20, 2000 06:04:25 PM
a loaf of bread is old after a day but i call it stale. but really even if an item is only ten years old it is vintage and thats ok and its the truth. vintage 90's i can except but vintage reproduction?????? thats the issue. anyone who says something new is vintage should be reported. the word vintage is a red flag.
the term circa is the best and works best by decade. but that also can be abused. example:
circa 1920 vintage toy bank
this rare 1920's bank is in mint condition and in its original box. it measures 10x12 and has original paint. it has been faithfully reproduced by bla bla bla and so on......but the word "reproduced" is buried in the description. usually in the middle of the description. thats deception
truth would be ....example:
title: reproduction toy bank (why not? because they wouldnt get bids)
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hammerchick
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posted on September 20, 2000 07:41:10 PM
An ad for a new shop advertised "primitives" and ended up they were new items made to look old by a neighbor. I'm not sure I know what the true definition is supposed to be of a "primitive" but I thought it was something old that someone fashioned at the time to help them do something in a better way, something basic and ingenius made from what they had. ???
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