posted on November 6, 2000 04:15:30 PM new
Here's what you get when you click on "reputation." (All identifying information deleted)
XXXXXX is Verified
Account Type
Business
Account Creation Date
September 15, 2000
Business URL
www.
Customer Service Email
XXXX
Customer Service Phone
555-555-5555
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE VERIFIED:
To become Verified, a PayPal Member must provide us with proof that he or she has opened an account at a bank or other financial institution. Because these institutions are required by law to screen account holders, PayPal's verification process increases security when you pay parties you do not know.
BUYER PROTECTION POLICY
If you pay a Verified seller who does not ship the promised goods, you may file a buyer protection claim under PayPal's Buyer Protection Policy. For purchases made on eBay using PayPal on or after 11/10/00, buyers who qualify for eBay's insurance policy (currently limited to $200) may recover up to an additional $200 of protection from PayPal. For non-eBay purchases, PayPal will investigate your claim, and attempt to collect any funds owed to you. You will be entitled to the return of any funds PayPal is able to collect on your behalf. Recovery of your claim is not guaranteed.
NOTE ON INTERNATIONAL USERS:
International members are not considered Verified. Transactions with or between International members are not covered under the Buyer Protection Policy.
posted on November 6, 2000 04:18:40 PM new
Your right, and when you press the link it shows that you are a verified seller. I have been with PalPal since near the beginning, but I'm not sure what all the negative feeling towards them are about. I have made hundreds of transactions and never had a problem. The provide a valuable service that makes it much easier to buy and sell. It is nice to have one service that most people use. Is there something I should know?
posted on November 6, 2000 04:58:46 PM new
Seems Ok to me nothing deadly in this information.
look pretty straight forword lets buyers know you are verifide they are protected You have opened a bank account for your bussiness how long you been there registered user.
Even Offer a Bussiness PH NO. of the seller
I can check see this is a fair seller with nothing to hide and has a contact number.
WWW.dman-n-company.com
posted on November 6, 2000 05:52:55 PM new
Hmmmm...
PayPal has proof that I have an account at a bank, the same as anyone who allows them to deposit funds. The only reason they will not give me verification status is because I will not give them permission to withdraw funds from that account.
This definition of PayPal's verification is very inaccurate.
posted on November 7, 2000 05:03:24 AM newPayPal has proof that I have an account at a bank, the same as anyone who allows them to deposit funds. The only reason they will not give me verification status is because I will not give them permission to withdraw funds from that account.
Almost correct but not quite. PayPal does not have proof that I have an account at a bank. They have proof that I have access to an account at a bank, or know enough about the account holder to find out the amount of the 2 small deposits over the phone.
PayPal has no proof whatsoever that the "verified" account is really mine.
posted on November 7, 2000 08:44:28 AM new
"Reputation" does not seem like the right word to use here. "Verification" at least makes some degree of sense, because it is verifying a bank account -- even if there appear to be holes in their process.
"Reputation" (according to The American HeritageŽ Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition, at dictionary.com), is:
>1.The general estimation in which a person is held by the public.
>2.The state or situation of being held in high esteem.
>3.A specific characteristic or trait ascribed to a person or thing: a reputation for courtesy.
Regardless, how would the PP use of "reputation" be applied in a test sentence(s)?
Perhaps: "This user has the reputation of having a bank account, and the listed website. They also have a reputation for having this phone number and email address." Do these words make much sense together?
It at least makes some sense to say "We have verified user XYZ has a bank account, have verified they are using this email address, website address, and phone number."
Besides, "Reputation" is not something businesses normally state to the general public. They do of course evaluate other companies' reputations when deciding who to buy supplies from, who to farm some tasks out to, or which company to buy, but any of those reputation discussions really happen behind closed doors.
Even eBay leaves deciding "reputation" mostly to the buyers. Yes, they list "feedback" comments (which originate from others), tabulate counts, and give "stars," but they still leave it up to other buyers to evaluate whether this all amounts to the seller having a good reputation or not. The exception is certain sellers who rack up too many complaints (and doesn't an eBay user have to initiate a non-FB complaint first? ). In this way, eBay does seem to mostly act as a venue (in this case, a venue for commentary that others can then use to form an opinion of reputation).
"Reputation" is, IMO, a much more subjective and interpretive judgement, and that is not what PayPal is judging. They are just renaming "verification." Word games, IMO.
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What's being done in the name of direct marketing nowadays is crazy.
The above are all just my opinions, except where I cite facts as such.
Oh, I am not dc9a320 anywhere except AW. Any others are not me.
Is eBay is changing from a world bazaar into a bizarre world?
[ Eliminated a confusing sentence. ]
[ edited by dc9a320 on Nov 7, 2000 08:46 AM ]
