TMAntiques
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posted on March 20, 2001 04:22:18 PM new
[ edited by TMAntiques on Mar 22, 2001 08:09 PM ]
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tomwiii
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posted on March 20, 2001 04:31:45 PM new
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mulberry912
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posted on March 20, 2001 04:32:15 PM new
WOW ! ! That is a hard one. First, was there a "Delivery Confirmation" sticker on the package when you got it? If not, I would just tell her, if she contacts you, that you are still waiting on the item. If there is a "Delivery Confirmation" sticker on it I would simply let her know that the box was empty and when she returned the item she would get her $$$ back. Dig in and stand up for yourself. What can she do other than NEG ya on feedback?
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mayer31
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posted on March 20, 2001 04:42:36 PM new
Sounds LIKE a SCam To me!!You Know that USps did not take a BROKEN Item
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annekila
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posted on March 20, 2001 04:53:39 PM new
Did the postage match the weight of the box?
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RainyBear
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posted on March 20, 2001 04:55:15 PM new
Ooh, annekila, good question! I wouldn't have thought of that. That will confirm whether she's trying to pull a scam or not.
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mulberry912
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posted on March 20, 2001 05:00:10 PM new
ANNEKILA ! ! You shoud be a DETECTIVE... What a brilliant idea...
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annekila
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posted on March 20, 2001 05:01:30 PM new
I'd probably make more money....
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headhunter265
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posted on March 20, 2001 05:31:37 PM new
send an empty envelope back to her
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mcjane
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posted on March 20, 2001 06:58:14 PM new
Good one headhunter 
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mulberry912
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posted on March 20, 2001 07:00:57 PM new
Better yet..mail her an unsealed envelope that is empty and if she emails you tell her you had put "her" cash in the envelope.
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gs4
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posted on March 20, 2001 07:13:05 PM new
First of, find a really large old alarm clock that has a real loud tick tick tick sound and mail it back to this duffas.
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TMAntiques
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posted on March 20, 2001 07:58:49 PM new
[ edited by TMAntiques on Mar 20, 2001 08:04 PM ]
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TMAntiques
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posted on March 20, 2001 07:58:51 PM new
[ edited by TMAntiques on Mar 22, 2001 08:10 PM ]
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unknown
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posted on March 20, 2001 08:04:53 PM new
I assume she shipped in Insured?
If so then the postal term is "rifleing" i.e. someone opened it up removed the contents and sealed it up again.
Tell her to file a claim with the post office and that you will sign an affidavit stating that it was received empty.
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TMAntiques
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posted on March 20, 2001 08:07:01 PM new
[ edited by TMAntiques on Mar 22, 2001 08:11 PM ]
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mulberry912
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posted on March 20, 2001 08:16:36 PM new
SERIOUSLY, I guess either way you are out ! ! !
You know if you email her and tell her that the item was not in the box she is going to deny it and call you a crook, or even worse. If you believe in your heart of hearts that she did in fact put the item in the box, then I would bite the bullet and send her the $$$ as long as it is not tooooo much. You never told us how much $ $ $ was involved.
If you believe she is scamming you then DO NOT PAY and wait for the one Neg feedback. You can live with that and even respond to her Neg by stating she returned an empty box to you.
It all depends on how much $$$ you are talking about. If it is $10.00, pay her. If it is a large amount of $$$, think it through.
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gs4
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posted on March 20, 2001 08:42:43 PM new
The burden of proof is on her end. All d.c. Shows is that you got a box,but not content. My guts tell me that you are being set up. So that said,no way would I refund. If she negs you just say goods not returned. Then move on. The sooner this is behind you the better. Wish you luck.
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mrssantaclaus
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posted on March 20, 2001 10:26:43 PM new
Was the postage on the box stamps or metered by the post office? If it was just stamps she could have just put the same amount back on that you put on to send it to her just to make it look good.
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zeenza
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posted on March 21, 2001 06:35:37 AM new
Now THIS is the exact kind of thing I would GO POSTAL over. Can't you list her name here so we can all see???
How can some people be so openly criminal?
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auctionee
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posted on March 21, 2001 09:08:40 AM new
Better yet..mail her an unsealed envelope that is empty and if she emails you tell her you had put "her" cash in the envelope.
Be sure to write "Cash Enclosed" on the front of the envelope in big letters. 
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RebelGuns
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posted on March 21, 2001 09:09:53 AM new
I think that's called mail fraud. You can contact your postmaster, or the Computer Crimes Unit of your Regional FBI Office for assistance.
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sg52
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posted on March 21, 2001 09:27:07 AM new
I think that's called mail fraud.
If the contents were removed during shipment, it would be theft of US mail, a federal criminal offense.
Both you and buyer should participate in reporting this apparent crime. Reporting it falsely is a crime as well; if buyer really is a crook, buyer will have committed a federal offense by participating in such a report.
Legally, buyer is responsible to get the stuff back to you if buyer expects a refund. This story is the exact mirror image of when you sent the stuff to buyer.
sg52
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lotsafuzz
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posted on March 21, 2001 12:23:02 PM new
I weiged the box and it was lighter than the amount of the postage that was put on it by the buyer who was returning the item
Uhh....if I am reading this correctly, this seller is saying there was MORE postage on the box than would be required for an EMPTY box. That would lead me to believe (without yet knowing if the package was 'stamped' at the PO or if the package was 'stamped' buy the buyer), that there WAS something in the box.
If the item was already broken, maybe the buyer didn't put all the extra packing that the seller had.
I think it is WAY to early to be calling this buyer ANY names.
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