loosecannon
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:22:33 PM new
One of my recent deadbeats. I hope he is lying for his sake. He has bid on a good number of items this month while in mourning, and burned me for a fairly large amount of $$. Sorry for the caps, that's how it was written.
"XXXX
PLEASE FORGIVE MY TARDINESS AND LACK OF COMMUNICATION IN THIS MATTER I
HAVE BEEN IN NEW YORK AT GROUND ZERO BURYING MY BROTHER AND MY OLDEST
DAUGHTER.THEY WERE BOTH KILLED IN THE TWIN TOWERS MY BROTHER OWNED A
BOUTIQUE AND MY DAUGHTER WAS THE MANAGER THERE.THE NEWS WAS RATHER SLOW
GETTING TO ME AND I JUST GOT BACK TO XXX THIS MORNING AT SIX AM I
SEE YOU'VE ALREADY LISTED FEEDBACK BLEMISHING MY PERFECT
RECORD HAVE A NICE DAY MAY GOD BLESS YOU EACH AND EVERY DAY OF YOUR
LIFE. JUST AS HE HAS BLESSED MINE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. XXXX"
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Yup, I blemished his perfect feedback.
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jeanyu
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:27:40 PM new
LC--sounds like a nut. Move on! I always get the heebie jeebies when dead beats BLESS ME.
Just a personal take. From all the personal dead beat blessings I have received, I'll be in heaven first.
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Zazzie
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:28:03 PM new
If he was bidding--then it most likely not true
If he had the time to bid--he had time to email you and explain a delay
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Eventer
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:28:45 PM new
Good Lord!
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DoctorBeetle
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:34:18 PM new
Check on their recent auction activity. The last time someone told me an equivalent story I found out that they had placed winning bids on auctions during their supposed time of being indisposed. I guess they placed those bids from a laptop computer at the funeral home.
Dr. Beetle
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petertdavis
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:36:27 PM new
Well, since there is no cemetary at "ground zero" I would wonder exactly how he's "burying" them there.
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kiara
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:37:40 PM new
If he was still bidding it is most likely a lie.
One of my bidders was strapped to a board because of an auto accident the day after she won my auction and she said she couldn't move her arms to use the keyboard to inform me. But I caught her bidding and I negged her.
Then I got a godly e-mail from her. It is their final way to try to get back at you.
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cjrent
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:40:39 PM new
MAY GOD BLESS YOU EACH AND EVERY DAY OF YOUR
LIFE. JUST AS HE HAS BLESSED MINE
I hope he wasnt saying that he hopes your brother and daughter die! Doesnt seem too blessed to me!
Claire & Jack Rosen
www.cjrfinearts.com
cjrent
877-276-6702
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loosecannon
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:41:54 PM new
Sheesh! He just sent me another email!
"YOUR PAYMENT HAS BEEN ON MY SECRETARIES DESK ALL THIS TIME ..I
HAD TURNED IT OVER TOO HER AS I WAS LEAVING MISCOMMUNICATION HAPPENED TO THAT IN ALL THE CONFUSION XXXX"
So I sent him this. Maybe this will be the end of it.
"XXXX, I've already sold the xxxx to someone else.
I am so sorry about your brother and eldest daughter. Please accept our condolences.
Steve"
I wanted to say "might as well spend that money on some of those items you've won this month", but I held my tongue. 
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Eventer
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:45:35 PM new
Hmmm, all caps...
Wonder if his name was JACKS & he owned a WEBBsite.
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jeanyu
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posted on October 29, 2001 01:56:34 PM new
loosecannon, perfect response. Not that you need my validation, but will remember how you handled this one.
And you did me better, I usually Bless my deadbeat bidder back--you controlled yourself
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loosecannon
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posted on October 29, 2001 02:02:01 PM new
Jeanyu
Thanks, but I cannot take credit. I learned to have "happy hands" from our dear Eventer.
Except for occasionally slipping back to my former "mean streak" ways, I'm a new man! I owe it all to her.
Thanks Eventer.
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Eventer
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posted on October 29, 2001 02:06:45 PM new
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dman3
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posted on October 29, 2001 02:31:09 PM new
Not to make lite of the email but I think that any who really did have that trouble would be the least worried about there feed back on ebay..
I could be wrong but I dont think so !!!!!
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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gravid
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posted on October 29, 2001 04:35:16 PM new
Maybe you can find it - I forget the URL but there is a place on the web that delivers curses. Real gypsy lady in the wagon kind of blood curdling curses that the superstitious will just croke to have delivered to them. This bird sounds like he needs one. My Grandma the German Pow-Wow lady could do a mean one. Curse your family and land and livelyhood to the end of time.
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mcjane
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posted on October 29, 2001 06:10:43 PM new
And all this time I thought Eventer was a guy! Well I'll be darned!
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Eventer
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posted on October 29, 2001 08:02:10 PM new
That's the second person in the past week that thought I was a guy!
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avaloncourt
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posted on October 29, 2001 09:49:07 PM new
[b]HAVE BEEN IN NEW YORK AT GROUND ZERO BURYING MY BROTHER AND MY OLDEST
DAUGHTER.[/b]
hmmm... most people would be going there to recover remains not burying them.
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orsen
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posted on October 29, 2001 11:55:18 PM new
Yep. Had a bidder/winner email me that their Wife had died and that was the reason payment was Not completed, Agreed to their reasons, untill I saw that when bidder was dead their was a bid. Descrate the name and grave.
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rgrem
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posted on October 30, 2001 04:51:18 AM new
I don't think most of these deadbeats know how much info we have access to once they win our auction. On a brighter almost-deadbeat note: I had been trying to track down a winner for 12 days, who HAD NOT been bidding for 10 days. I finally got an email 3 different ways saying "I am really sorry, schedule and business concerns have caused this. I've paid by paypal this am, and included an extra $3 for a beverage. Thanks for your patience." My patience was prompted by his feedback and lack of recent bidding.
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jubilee333
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posted on October 30, 2001 05:18:00 AM new
An excuse is one thing, but I can't stand it when people use death of loved ones as an excuse! If you feel you can't be honest for whatever reason and have to make up an excuse why can't you just say you were ill or had to leave town, or lost your check book or your computer died and you couldn't email, or whatever... it's eerie to say family members died when they didn't... And it's clear to me this guy is full of it, this "ground zero" story makes no sense...  I'm glad you already negged him...
rgrem - Thanks for the story. Sometimes, after getting several obvious excuses in email from slow-paying bidders, it's easy to get into the habit of automatically thinking "yeah, SURE you had to leave town suddenly", etc... It is sometimes hard, but clearly important to keep in mind that unexpected delays DO occur and cannot be helped. We all have them ourselves too.
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dannkim
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posted on October 30, 2001 12:51:24 PM new
Yep sounds like a crock to me too. I would just forget him and move on.
I do have a repeat bidder though that I am really concerned that something like this may have actually happened.
He has purchased from me many many times and wasn't much of an email person, but the payment always arrived in a few days, not this time, no response and no email receipts, which I usually did get from him. He lives about 40 miles from the city and although I did relist the item a while ago, I just can't bring myself to file for the credit or to leave feedback.
He has no bidding history since the attacks and has a perfect record of 289 and I won't blemish that for an under $10 item.
To me your bidder is full of it, yet mine, even with no email response, I feel that something happened to him or to someone in his family for him to just disappear like this.
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relayerone
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posted on October 30, 2001 01:20:44 PM new
I'm not at all religious, but I believe in karma--what goes around comes around. I would *never* tempt fate by proclaiming the death of a loved one if in fact that loved one wasn't dead-- do that and it's likely to become self-fulfilling! Yeesh, some people.....
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loosecannon
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posted on October 30, 2001 01:27:04 PM new
dannkim
Could very well be so.
However, I've had several high feedback bidders with excellent feedback end up deadbeating, as this guy did (he has over 100 positives, and now one neg--mine). Probably a variety of reasons. They find they've overspent, they simply decide they didn't want it that badly after all, something more important comes up, and so forth.
Of course, they almost never tell you up front that they don't want it anymore. They simply ignore emails and hope the seller will not leave a neg.
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touchofeurope
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posted on October 30, 2001 03:06:08 PM new
I have had another one use the WTC excuse. She is in CA and says she found out only 10 days later they were affected (huh?)
Got a reaction after I left her 3 negs and FVF was filed. She wanted to pay to make good but I needed her address (heavy items, FedEx). When I asked for the address she became silent....
I hate how people are using 9-11 as an excuse, how low can you go?
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