ultimato
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posted on October 29, 2001 03:14:01 PM new
Now I've heard everything. Ebay just pulled an auction I had for a record album from 1972 because it has a Not for Sale sticker on it. Are they on drugs or what? The group on this album never even made it and is probably all dead! When does a promo become a legitimate collectible in their eyes, or is the answer never? I'll never understand their policies when it comes to copyright. I can understand not allowing current promo product, but something from three decades ago?
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rarriffle
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posted on October 29, 2001 03:19:50 PM new
someone had to have seen it and turned you in. I have sold 3 or 4 of those last spring with no problems at all.
the self appointed ebay police are everywhere
some people should get a life of their own and stay out of everybody elses.
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veebee
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posted on October 29, 2001 03:22:33 PM new
I've had 6 or 7 promos jerked off also..I found out never put "not for sale" anywhere in your title or description..I use the word demo or promo and have never had a problem since..i have about 40 promo 45s on now..just had 50 or so go off with no problem.
Someone could have turned your auction in to ebay also. who knows?
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Eventer
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posted on October 29, 2001 03:24:07 PM new
group on this album never even made it and is probably all dead!
Wasn't Jeff Buckley, was it?
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loosecannon
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posted on October 29, 2001 03:25:52 PM new
I had a promo record canceled too, but mine was from 1982 or so.
I figured it just ain't worth the trouble to list them. I was going to get what, maybe 5 or 6 dollars for it if it did sell?
There must be people that enjoy looking for these so they can report dastardly deeds, or maybe it really is illegal to sell them, old and collectible or not.
Jeff Buckley, I remember those threads. 
[ edited by loosecannon on Oct 29, 2001 03:30 PM ]
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ultimato
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posted on October 29, 2001 04:51:31 PM new
VeeBee, you could be right. This is the first time I remember using the words "Not for Sale." I only did that because there's a big sticker on front that says that. Usually I use the word promo or promotional and also have never had a problem. last time I'm gonna be honest!
No, not Jeff Buckley. Some obscure band called The Wackers, believe it or not. I probably wouldn't have even made $5 on it, that's what's so silly.
Does anyone know how many times Ebay will end auctions before they suspend a seller? This isn't my first time but the others at least I deserved it. I'd hate to get kicked off over a 30-year-old record that no one ever heard of!
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jereth
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posted on October 29, 2001 06:06:07 PM new
The Wackers were Bob Satriani's band, if I'm not mistaken. Very early onto the Internet with his music. One of those indie-pop guys, I believe from Canada. The Wackers album is quite good (per my husband), who points out that our copy of the LP also has that sticker on it.
Marie
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gravid
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posted on October 29, 2001 06:19:00 PM new
Might as well list it so the ex-hall monitors can have some joy in life.
pretty soon they will be on the neighborhood watch for "Homefront Defense" and too busy writing down when you come and go late at night to do eBay also.
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ultimato
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posted on October 29, 2001 06:19:08 PM new
Well, if it's good maybe I'll just keep it then! I (of course) got a form response to my inquiry back to Ebay regarding why a 30-year-old promo LP is a problem for them. One of the links they send you to explains that even if an item is "very old" it's still covered by copyright laws. It has to be more than 50 years before it falls out of copyright. So I guess I'll relist this in 2022! I still think it's all a crock, personally. It also said, interestingly, that Ebay does "not specifically prohibit" the sale of music promo items, but will remove them to "protect" us from prosecution. Personally, I think it would be a hoot to go to court to defend selling a 30-year-old Wackers album.
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dman3
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posted on October 29, 2001 06:22:39 PM new
What would be more of a hoot is if they won the case and you had to pay them there .02 royalty on the sale of there promo album
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veebee
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posted on October 29, 2001 07:15:31 PM new
That lp only books for 5-10 so i guess you did'nt lose much..Like i said I have had 6 or 7 pulled off in the last 4 or 5 months and am still selling. Maybe it's because I only take billpoint and not paypal. ha!
Last search i did on ebay for the word "promo" showed over 5,000 hits,so there is plenty listed all the time.
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micheneraddict
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posted on October 29, 2001 10:34:12 PM new
I had an Aretha Franklin DJ Promo Copy on a while ago. It got pulled because I put in the Not for Sale wording. I waited a while, and put it up again minus the wording and it went the 7 days without a problem. Got good money for it too.
The same thing goes for selling Advance Reading Copies/Uncorrected Proofs of books. Most of them will say, Not for Sale. I've seen several pulled due to the wording.
I think ebay maybe does a search and looks at auctions that come up with Not for Sale and just pull them. Not necessarily anyone turned you in. I'm not sure about that though.
Micheneraddict
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thepackratsattic
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posted on October 30, 2001 08:25:46 AM new
Thanks for the news & the alternative advice on selling promos.....
NOW I know how to handle the 2000 45's & 1500 albums (a LOT of promos from the 60s & 70s) that are setting in storage.....
Guess I will pull the few gems like the Bing Crosby & Wayne Newton stuff for ebay and then make a package deal for the rest just to make them go away.....
...or find a skeet range!
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