ihula
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posted on March 11, 2002 02:50:42 PM new
Here's the brief scenario. I sold a package of trial sized vintage luvs diapers on ebay. There was one left in the pack and I listed it as such. It sold for $10.50. I just received an email from the buyer stating that the diaper inside the package is not the vintage diaper but a different diaper and I should have known that and he's turning me into ebay for fraud and demanding his money back plus return shipping. Well I emailed him back very calmly that I was sorry and I'm not a collector of vintage diapers and it didn't even dawn on me to compare the one in the box to the one shown in the picture on the outside of the box. I refunded his money, but told him I didn't care to have it returned to me. I haven't heard back from him. (it's only been 30 minutes) I suppose I'll get a negative out of this, but can ebay suspend me over this or am I panicing over nothing?
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tomwiii
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posted on March 11, 2002 02:53:34 PM new
Sounds like a LOAD OF CRAP! 
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professorhiggins
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posted on March 11, 2002 02:59:39 PM new
You refunded his money and apologized. It was a reasonable error so I seriously doubt that ebay will suspend you.
Now, if it was a soiled vintage diaper which was inside the box then you may have a
problem. However, it appears the buyer is making a big stink over nothing.
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tomwiii
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posted on March 11, 2002 03:00:44 PM new
PIMP!
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ihula
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posted on March 11, 2002 03:33:23 PM new
I realize "vintage diaper" sounds weird, but you'd be amazed...look it up once. I'm never passing by a box of vintage diapers again 
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NanasTurtles
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posted on March 11, 2002 04:04:34 PM new
If he reports you, ebay will probably send you an email about the complaint but once you explain the mistake and let them know you have issued a full refund, that will be the last of it, I'm sure.....Don't fret......mistakes happen and you handled it the best that could be expected of you so relax......
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mrssantaclaus
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posted on March 11, 2002 04:34:09 PM new
So ... what's the chance he changed the diaper inside and then threw a fit so you would refund his money?
If you think about it, as a Parent when was the last time you took a diaper out of a new package and put it in an old one?
I think there was a fraud here .... but I don't think it was you.
JMHO
Becky
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ihula
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posted on March 11, 2002 05:00:52 PM new
Never thought about that. Since I didn't look at it originally I wouldn't know one way or the other. He did email me back saying no hard feelings and he'll leave positive feedback for the refund. I'll just chalk it up as a "know your merchandise better before listing it" lesson.
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classicrock000
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posted on March 11, 2002 05:38:21 PM new
ahhh vintage diapers--its brings me back some
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captainkirk
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posted on March 12, 2002 06:16:05 AM new
"If you think about it, as a Parent when was the last time you took a diaper out of a new package and put it in an old one? "
Actually, given the chaos in the average home with young children, its amazing that more unexplained items dont end up in diaper boxes.
We find mismatched diapers in containers on a regular basis. Its easy to happen if you have multiple kids in diapers at the same time, or the child is transitioning to the next size, or if a toddler just happens to get to the container and decides to pull everything out...just for fun.
When the phone is ringing, the kid's crying, dinner is burning, and you find a spare diaper..you shove it anywhere you can that makes the least bit of sense. New diaper in old diaper container? No problem....
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alwaysbroke
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posted on March 12, 2002 06:37:40 AM new
At least he e-mailed you instead of using the FB for complaining.
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mrssantaclaus
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posted on March 12, 2002 06:47:44 AM new
Yes, but we are talking a new diaper in a vintage package. Also, I checked out the auction .. you would have to work at it to get a diaper in there ... not just slip it in a bag.
I think the bidder got a free "moment" on the seller.
I was very lucky ... only one baby in diapers at a time. I can only imagine the diaper bill! WOW!
BECKY
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ahwahneeliz
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posted on March 12, 2002 07:13:00 AM new
tangent
at what point do diapers become vintage? Are these 1980s diapers? I know, I'll do a little "research" on my own, but I am constantly amazed at some of the things that are collected. Makes me feel better about my crap... uh, lovely collectables. I was running a search last night for "snow vintage" for snow domes. I came across a $65 pair of vintage snow white panties. I couldn't resist checking further about vintage panties, two pair in one listing over $100. To heck with trying to learn nuances of hallmarks and worrying about the most hidden flea bite on a dish, I'm lookin' for panties and diapers when I go out today!!
ahwahneeliz `·.¸><(((ºcJ
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captainkirk
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posted on March 12, 2002 08:54:12 AM new
yeah,i'm on my 8th kid in diapers. We've got 3 in them right now. I am an expert in "chaos" right about now.
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twinsoft
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posted on March 12, 2002 09:07:02 AM new
And here I've been throwing old diapers away. I feel so STUUUPID!
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twinsoft
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posted on March 12, 2002 09:07:46 AM new
[insert gratuitous diaper joke here.]
[ edited by twinsoft on Mar 12, 2002 09:09 AM ]
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deichen
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posted on March 12, 2002 07:11:50 PM new
Wow, this amazes me. Why would anyone collect diapers when there are sooooo many cool things to collect?
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ihula
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posted on March 12, 2002 08:16:33 PM new
I agree, I came upon vintage pampers orignially by accident when I was searching completed items for something else. I just about fell out of my chair. And to answer a previous questions the older the better, but I think 1980's and earlier is about what people are collecting.
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professorhiggins
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posted on March 12, 2002 10:24:17 PM new
Perhaps this is somewhat OT but I have to ask.
Have diapers changed much in the last 20-30
years. I don't have children, but if people are becoming picky about what is and is not
"vintage" there must be some differences.
Is it one of those things that you you can look at with a sigh and say "they sure don't build 'em like that anymore?"
I suppose if the old diapers had vintage cartoon characters on them that could be one reason why they might be desirable.
How have diapers changed over the years?
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ihula
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posted on March 13, 2002 04:42:58 AM new
Actually diapers have changed very much over the years, but only for the better. I always thought people collected them for the box - nostalgia type of thing. I think that's why I didn't originally look at the diaper in the box because I figured he wanted the box. But like anything collectable unopened boxes in mint condition go much better. I even saw a 1950's or 1960's diaper magazine ad go for over $20.00. I don't see the attraction in it, but I suppose someone could look at my collection of hula items and go "why would someone collect THAT".
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alwaysbroke
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posted on March 13, 2002 04:43:32 AM new
Does anyone know why vintage disposable diapers are collectible? Any ideas?
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alwaysbroke
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posted on March 13, 2002 04:49:17 AM new
The diapers were plain white and bulky. Later they came out with easier peel and stick tabs. Then thinner, more absorbent padding. Then pictures. Then his/her diapers. Then pull-ups.
I would be interested in knowing what they are being used for. Display?
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ihula
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posted on March 13, 2002 04:56:26 AM new
My husband has an interesting theory, but I don't think in necessarily applies in the diaper case. He thinks a lot of movie companies buy vintage items for the movie sets. Everytime we watch a movie that has taken place in the past he'll say "see they had to get that 1950's radio (or other widget) from somewhere". We once sold a vintage Jack-in-th-box (from the 1970's) to someone who told us it would be used on an episode of Sesame Street. Of course I don't know why Sesame street would need an old one, but it almost makes my point.
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holdenrex
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posted on March 13, 2002 06:06:50 AM new
ihula, you're right, some of the buyers of vintage merchandise are movie prop "pickers." Every now and then we'd have them come through the antique malls, but I'm guessing that ebay and other online venues have made their job a lot easier. Also, there's some companies in Hollywood that cater specifically in renting such vintage/historical props to the production companies, so I'm sure they try to keep all sorts of props on hand to quickly fill the requests of production companies.
Though in this case, if I were to lay odds, I'd guess the buyer is a diaper collector and I'd go so far as to guess, a diaper fetishist. I'm rarely surprised by what people collect anymore since finding out about 15 years ago that there's a huge market for vintage condoms and especially the old restroom vending machines.
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Damariscotta
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posted on March 13, 2002 06:45:53 AM new
Some people collect things because of industry/business association.
There was actually a very interesting article in the New Yorker magazine a few weeks ago about the continuing development and enhancement of the disposable diaper. The economic implications of changes in this product were amazing!
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