posted on September 20, 2002 12:03:22 AM new
I have a feeling this was there before, but filing NPB (and ALOT of it) I noticed this on the NPB page..
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Please use care when filing a Non-Paying Bidder Alert--this Form should be used only if the high bidder is unresponsive. Using this Form as a tool to intimidate or coerce your buyers into completing the transaction may be cause for suspension.
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Uh, even if these deadbeat constantly emails me, saying lies like "money on the way" to "my entire family was killed by a dog" I HAVE to file NPB within 45 days to start the process on getting my FVf back. If I go by what ebays want, then i could NEVEr file NPB IF the buyer actually still communicates with me?
Are you guys still filing NPB if the payment doesnt arrive within 16 to 21 dqays? (thats my window period for payment).
posted on September 20, 2002 05:52:09 AM new
if the seller files a lot of NPB,there is something wrong with her auctions.or there could be shell bidding and the seller wants the final value fee back.
posted on September 20, 2002 07:04:38 AM new
hmm, i didnt think of that. This past summer, I had a 10% NPB, out of the 10%, 7%, when they got the NPB warning paid immediatly, so I will say it does work as a tool to get them to pay, BUT ebays seem to be saying I CAN'T use it as a means of making the deadbeat pay, yet, from my experience,it does work effectively. It sure made dead family members come back, to mysterious missing money order thats lost in the mail for 3 weeks show up (post maked the day after NPB was filed).
Doesnt ebay have some other means of finding sellers who shill (even though I reported some sellers who obviously shill, like the seller who sold 3 of the same car with the same scratch marks and paint job and same exact meter milage to the same bidder 3 times, ebays doesn't seem to care).
posted on September 20, 2002 07:48:40 AM new
We can recognize the problem, why can't eBay.
Buyers signing up that are underage, or bidders that don't know what they are doing. Buyers bidding and not following through with their transactions. How many WBN emails do we have to send a bidder, or follow up emails to find out that they aren't going to pay or that their email was faulty. I don't think it is my duty as a seller to make a long distance phone call to find out why the bidder hasn't paid. Why should I be out the phone call money when the item that was won was probably only $5.00. I deal in low ticket items and a phone call really takes away my profit. i.e. I spend a $1.00 for my item, put the item on for $5.00. (hoping it will go higher) If it only sells for $5.00 that means my profit is about only $2.00 and then they want me to make a long distance call to find out why my bidder hasn't paid - NOT eBay gets their money up front I get mine last.
[ edited by Libra63 on Sep 20, 2002 07:51 AM ]
posted on September 20, 2002 09:52:12 AM new
"Using this Form as a tool to intimidate or coerce your buyers into completing the transaction ..."
The employees ay ebay are a bunch of ignorant idiots, they drafted the NPB email language to intimidate the buyer into paying -- and then they say you can't use the form for its intended purpose.
OTOH if I were a buyer who doesn't want to pay up, I'd send an email to ebay saying "I received your NPB form and felt intimidated. The seller is trying to coerce me into completing this transaction."
posted on September 20, 2002 10:13:28 AM new
Maybe if you sent an email to them first threatening to use the NPB form, then that could be construed as coercion, but if you just send it, without telling them you are going to, it wouldn't be coercion.
I know I do not send emails to non-payers threatening to do things, I just do it and let them decide what they are going to do.
I never have had one pay up yet after I sent and NPB, so why bother sending a threatening email?
Ain't Life Grand...
posted on September 20, 2002 10:22:43 AM new
I would like to know what I am doing wrong? In 4+ yrs. I have had 1 NPB. I have had 55 sales in the past 20 days & every one has paid on time.
posted on September 20, 2002 10:36:46 AM new
"I would like to know what I am doing wrong? In 4+ yrs. I have had 1 NPB. I have had 55 sales in the past 20 days & every one
has paid on time."
Try making that 1,055 auctions in the last 20 days and your statistics will change.
As George Zimmer of the Men's Warehouse says,
"I guarantee it."
the buyer to pay up the whole idea dehind the warning ?