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 computerboy
 
posted on September 20, 2002 01:13:13 PM new
Just received a Billpoint chargeback from an auction that ended almost 120 days ago.... It was the first word we had ever received that there was a problem with the auction. Hum..

Goods were sent via Priority mail to an address in Hawaii. The address was not recognized using the USPS online label creator, so we sent it Priority Mail under a manual label without delivery confirmation (manually DC forms are way too time consuming for us to want to mess with). My bad, as I know we are going to end up eating this one without the DC.

Sometime selling online really bites...



 
 trai
 
posted on September 20, 2002 02:26:28 PM new
as I know we are going to end up eating this one without the DC.

You may wind up eating this even if you had DC. You did not say if you tried to contact the buyer since.

Could be they do not remember your seller id or name.

If they do not respond to you, then you will know that you been had!

It's always a big risk taking CC online. There is no real protection from this kind of abuse.




[ edited by trai on Sep 20, 2002 02:28 PM ]
 
 stopwhining
 
posted on September 20, 2002 06:32:50 PM new
does billpoint have the same seller protection program as paypal?
if you have a merchant account,dc means nothing.
did you ask billpoint why does it take so long,usually 60 days

 
 Libra63
 
posted on September 20, 2002 07:19:36 PM new
How can a chargeback happen after 120 days. I guess it's the same as a check clearing after 10 days. Something is wrong. Did the buyer say they never received your item or didn't they say anything. It's to late to contact a CC company as everything has to be done, I think, in 90 days. Did you write to Billpoint, or try and call them. Did you write to your bidder and find out what the problem is?

Now with the new USPS on line DC, you get a notice that says when you enter an address and it isn't in their database they give you the right address, at least they did when I sent one. I.E. PayPal gave me a confirmed address and the confirmed address was not in the DC system, because that address had 3 cities that were serviced by one Postal Office and it had to be sent to the Post Office that they declared. I think this just started with the new postal rates.



 
 pretegra345
 
posted on September 20, 2002 10:41:04 PM new
Chargebacks happen to offline retailers all the time too, the person forgets they made the purchase, doesn't want to admitt to their spouse that they made it, someone steals their card, etc.....it's one of the hazards of accepting credit cards, whether you do it offline or online or use an online payment service.

As for the time period, to my knowledge the card holder has 6 months to dispute a transaction.

As for the rest, selling things is risky no matter where you do it.

*shrugs*


-M

 
 stopwhining
 
posted on September 21, 2002 05:51:35 AM new
when i use my paypal debit card AS A CREDIT CARD to buy merchandise and service from bigwig HOME DEPOT,can i do a chargeback after 30 days??

 
 dadofstickboy
 
posted on September 21, 2002 05:56:08 AM new
I'm not totally sure But:
I don't think you can do a charge back with ANY debit card.

I think that's a luxury offered by Credit Cards only!

 
 tomwiii
 
posted on September 21, 2002 06:20:05 AM new
DEBIT CARDS (even when used & accepted as "credit cards" afford the purchaser virtually NO protection!

Unless your bank specifically offers a super debit card (BANK of AMERICA's VISA CHECK CARD is backed with "credit card" rights -- rare!), you be SOL when trying to CB with a debit card!

They (DEBIT CARDS vs CREDIT CARDS) fall under DIFFERENT FED LAW!


http://www.sparedollar.com?ref=260
 
 ihula
 
posted on September 21, 2002 07:10:29 AM new
Hi Computerboy,
That happened to me last week. Purchase was back in June, I didn't use delivery confirmation. Guy is NARU'd. I tried to email him several times asking what the problem was - no response. Figured I would eat the $28.00 and the $10.00 billpoint fee - nothing I could do about it. Well, I just went into my billpoint account to write down my deposits for the week and found out there were no deposits - everything is frozen. People are still paying me through billpoint, but they aren't putting any money in my account. Now I'm not sure what to do. Anyone know how long I will be frozen for? Seems unfair. I was willing to eat this chargeback, but now people are paying me and I don't know if I'm ever going to see that money. Yes, I contacted billpoint - no response yet. So look out computerboy - stop taking billpoint payments ASAP!!!

 
 trai
 
posted on September 21, 2002 08:17:18 AM new
stop taking billpoint payments ASAP

This is a moot point because billpoint will not be around much longer since ebay took over paypal.



[ edited by trai on Sep 21, 2002 08:23 AM ]
 
 ihula
 
posted on September 21, 2002 11:15:30 AM new
If people keep paying him with billpoint they are going to freeze his account and I don't know how long it takes for him to get his money back. If I would have known they were going to freeze my account I would have stated in my auctions that I prefer not to take billpoint at this time - or something like that. Now people are paying me and who knows when I will see the money. I think it will be longer than 1 week before billpoint is non-existant.

 
 stopwhining
 
posted on September 21, 2002 11:38:18 AM new
billpoint may be around longer than we think,until paypal has the capacity to offer merchant accounts.

 
 
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