Libra63
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posted on December 20, 2002 06:18:08 AM new
Seller took the picture from my auction and not from AW so I am not charged for the picture, but I am truly upset. Seller is a power seller with 583 feedbacks 440 are unique with 8 negatives. Would you write that seller and confront them or not. I will be waiting to hear your response. I do not think it is a compliment that my picture was stolen as I feel this picture is below quality. I think this person is a lazy seller and does not want to do the work themselves. I will wait for your responses.
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Reamond
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posted on December 20, 2002 06:25:08 AM new
If it bothers you then write them and ask them to remove it.
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Twelvepole
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posted on December 20, 2002 07:22:51 AM new
Are you still selling this item? If not then why bother?
If you are and you feel the picture is of low quality, make a new one...
Ain't Life Grand... 
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tooltimes
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posted on December 20, 2002 09:03:08 AM new
I'd be flattered. Most ebay photos are not worth stealing.
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findingtreasures4u
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posted on December 20, 2002 11:25:09 AM new
This happened to my sister, she emailed the guy and explained that she was charged by ebay. He apologized and sent money to her via paypal. She got lucky but it's worth a try.
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sun818
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posted on December 20, 2002 11:37:54 AM new
A PowerSeller would not fall for that. If I were you, I would get revenge and replace it with a naughty picture. Or write "FREE EXPRESS SHIPPING" on the image.
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tooltimes
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posted on December 20, 2002 11:42:18 AM new
If I were you, I would get revenge and replace it with a naughty picture. Or write "FREE EXPRESS SHIPPING" on the image.
Anyone dumb enough to steal an ebay photo and not store it on their hard drive deserves that fate.
[ edited by tooltimes on Dec 20, 2002 08:14 PM ]
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dadofstickboy
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posted on December 20, 2002 11:44:45 AM new
In this case they can do nothing.
The thief copied the pic.
To play games they need to link!
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Libra63
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posted on December 20, 2002 05:53:15 PM new
I have an identical item on again but I have taken new pictures. When I put this auction on I didn't know about the first photo. If I have identical items to list I use an image of the item that goes with the auction. i don't use 1 photo for two auctions. I wrote the seller that I didn't appreciate what he did and in the future please ask permission and if not I will send them a bill. But searching through his other auctions I noticed he borrowed someone elses for another auction. Guess it is cheaper than buying a camera...They also don't waste time editing a photo. That is what takes me the time to try and get an exact image of the item. Thanks all.........
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kiara
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posted on December 20, 2002 09:41:25 PM new
Libra, if someone stole my pics I wouldn't be flattered either. I consider this the act of a lazy seller who feeds off others.
And it is against ebay's rules.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-text-and-images.html
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sparkz
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posted on December 20, 2002 10:14:15 PM new
Two weeks ago, I had a listing with a bid on it when I got an email from a person saying he had an item exactly like it he wanted to list and asked if he could use my pictures. He was new to selling, had a fb of 2, 1 as a buyer and 1 as a seller, and stated he would not start his auction until after mine ended. I had never had a request like this before, but since my lone bidder at the time had great fb and I was sure it would sell, I gave him permission. I told him not to use one of the pics which detailed a serial number, but he was welcome to use the others. I checked up on it two nights ago, and his auction is running. The great part is, at the bottom of the listing, he is giving me credit for the photos and providing a link to my sellers page. The whole thing sort of caught me by surprise, but since he was above board and asked for permission to use the pictures, I had no problem letting him. If he had stolen them,I would be just as upset as Libra.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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tooltimes
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posted on December 20, 2002 11:14:35 PM new
It may be against ebay's rules but there is no way to prove the pictures are yours short of a notarized statement mailed to ebay or learn how to imprint your name on the photos somehow like many sellers do.
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biskitsandgravie
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posted on December 21, 2002 12:18:26 AM new
If you auction ran before theirs ebay will accept that as proof.
I have had numerous auctions shut down that were using my photos.
I also use digital watermarking.
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Libra63
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posted on December 21, 2002 01:54:13 AM new
My auction ended with a BIN on the 15. His auction was running the same time but his BIN was a lot higher and didn't sell so now he has relisted it. I have the same auction running again but I have taken new pictures of this item because I feel that the pictures in my auction must be the item I am selling. Now that is how I feel and I am sure others don't and thats fine. I received an email from this seller saying I was rude and all I asked him was to ask permission and if he doesn't and uses my pictures again I will send him a bill. I know that that is my picture. I don't need writing on it, but sometimes I do write on my pictures and in the future I am going to do it all the time. He said that there was no place on ebay where is says I cannot use other peoples images. But thanks to Kiara and eBays Copyright infringement there is something. This is what he says about using the picture.
[b]I do, 99% of the time, take my
own pictures. I just decided not to get my things out for this round of
auctions.[/b]
Well I doubt he/she will be using others pictures again...
Thanks all.
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tooltimes
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posted on December 21, 2002 10:11:08 AM new
If you auction ran before theirs ebay will accept that as proof.
I find that hard to believe. The picture could have been stolen on ebay long ago. Let's say the new owner runs an auction(s) and then the rightful owner decides to run his old auction again. The rightful owner's auction is booted for having a stolen picture?
I see auctions with the auction seller's name or website on the photos. That will at least make it very difficult for anyone else to use.
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Libra63
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posted on December 21, 2002 10:46:10 AM new
He cancelled his auction. Took the picture off and relisted with his own picture (I think). That is after I sent him information about copyright rules of eBay. I doubt he will do that again. You know I have learned quite a bit from these boards and I still don't know them all so until I do I will just be a regular seller. I assume if you are a powerseller that you have learn everything you can about ebay as you wouldn't want to jeopardize your standings.
Hats off to the posters in this forum. Thanks for all your help and Merry Christmas or Happy Haunakka which every pertains.
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biskitsandgravie
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posted on December 21, 2002 02:34:51 PM new
I find that hard to believe.
Yeah, well there are lots things that are hard to believe with ebay...like VERO. That has nothing to do with it working or not.
It worked for me 10-15 times before I started watermaking.
Libra63: If you don't like your name imprinted on the photos the digital watermarking works great.
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jillmarie
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posted on December 21, 2002 07:05:32 PM new
Where can I learn to digital watermark?
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biskitsandgravie
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posted on December 21, 2002 10:41:12 PM new
I use my in paintshop pro. I think it is included in other photo editing software also. It is through digimarc.
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JWPC
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posted on December 24, 2002 09:52:09 AM new
Till just recently when eBay began banning “java” we had a block from copying on our photo’s. We had to remove that when eBay banned “java script.” NOW, we write our name across the photo, so that even a skilled PaintShop 7 pro user would have to totally mess up the pictures to rid it of all evidences of the name printed across it....and we put it across the item, so that it is very difficult to remove without destroying the item pictured.
Anyone can write their name, etc. on a picture, if they are using a fine program like Paintshop Pro 7 – I can’t imagine life without it. Personally, I think it is far and above anything Adobe has ever done.
NOW, be pre-warned, you don’t just jump into Paintshop Pro and learn to use it over night. We have been running it since it was Paintshop Pro 5 – now it is 7, and we have used it 4 or 5 years, and there are still areas of, and abilities of the program which I haven’t learned.
I use the animation portion of the program to create an GIF, of items in our eBay store, which are in the same category as the item on auction....the potential buyer can then SEE a rotating GIF, showing 8 to 10 pictures, one at a time, of similar items available in our eBay store – this has increased our eBay store business greatly. It appears, as a slide show....
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biskitsandgravie
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posted on December 24, 2002 10:24:18 AM new
I love paint shop pro. Photoshop is a cumbersome memory hog.
I have been using paint shop for over 5 years.
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pelorus
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posted on December 24, 2002 11:02:21 AM new
What is the big deal if someone grabs a pic off your auction? I have done it occasionally for books and don't care if someone takes mine. Life is too short to get in a snit about such small stuff.
Move on and put your energies into selling more stuff for more money.
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biskitsandgravie
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posted on December 24, 2002 08:23:14 PM new
What is the big deal if someone grabs a pic off your auction?
It is illegal. People in general don't like thieves. I wouldn't let my neighbor "grab" gardenias off my bushes for her dinner party and I certainly won't let a stranger "grab" my photos for his auction.
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