posted on January 7, 2003 11:57:29 AM new
We regret to inform you that your eBay auction:
2904675119 GET ANY #*!@ you desire w/this textbook!!!
has been ended. All fees associated with this auction have been credited to your account.
The item you have listed does not appear to be consistent with eBay guidelines.
eBay cannot allow items such as you have listed to be listed on our site. The eBay Mature Audiences policy places strict limitations on the types of sexually-oriented material that can be placed on the eBay core site as well as in the Mature Audiences section of the site. It is very important that you review this policy thoroughly before listing these types of items in the future. Additional violations of this policy can even lead to the suspension of the eBay account.
This policy can be viewed in its entirety at the following URL:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-mature.html
Here are some examples of sexually-oriented material that would not be permitted. Note that this type of material is prohibited whether it appears in the title, description text, images or even on web pages that are linked from the listing.
The following will not be permitted:
- Persons may not touch another persons breast with their mouths
- Describing the item as hardcore
- Images depicting people touching their own genitals/anus or other's genitals/ anus. This includes images showing oral contact with breasts or genitalia.
- Sellers may not block, crop or edit images that would otherwise not be allowed on eBay.
- Description or photos stating that the box or video covers are not allowed because they are to graphic are not permitted
- No images that depict only genitalia
- Descriptions depicting penetration or oral sexual acts and graphic portrayals of human genitalia
- Images portraying graphic sexual activity or graphic portrayals of human genitalia
- Any reference to Sadomasochism (S&M) or other sexually-oriented material that features pain, torture, rough sex, bodily injury, rape or violence.
- Hidden camera videos and amateur videos containing adult/sexual activity
- Listing descriptions depicting graphic violence and/or obvious bodily injury
- Items featuring semen or other bodily fluids.
- Inappropriate language such as Hardcore or Extreme
- Necrophelia
- Links to sites that contain items prohibited on eBay (including those outlined in our Mature Audiences policy and those that do not comply with our Links and Advertisements and Credits policies)
- Listing titles which represent any of the above and what is covered under our existing policy
- Descriptions or titles which describe an item as XX or above
- Descriptions or titles in some cases containing profanity
- Used underwear - including but not limited to, boxer shorts, panties, briefs, athletic supporters
posted on January 7, 2003 12:08:02 PM new
Hey guys.....
This is really not a good way to start off my new eBay career
Firstly, I do get my money back right? There is no way I am paying for having my ad only on for a few hours!!!
Secondly,I would like to know as to exactly why did my auction get deleted:
1.Was it b/c I used the word "b!tch"?
2.The soft porn pics? (I doubt it as many merchants in the adult category use pornography to sell their products)
3.??????
Anyway, I think this is a great forum community. I have been searching for a place like this on the internet for a long time. I sure wish to participate here more often (Can we use html tags in our messages mod?)
posted on January 7, 2003 12:35:52 PM new
Well.... after reading the prohibited images and descriptions rules you'd have to ask why there is an adult area? What could possibly be in the adult area that is adult ? A nude person ?
posted on January 7, 2003 01:18:38 PM new
Even the porn movie sellers are very careful with their auctions as ebay doesn't allow much leeway in the photos or descriptions.
You'd have been better off spending some time looking through the categories that you were placing your auctions and seeing what the veteran sellers were doing to stay within ebay's guidelines.
posted on January 7, 2003 01:28:03 PM new1.Was it b/c I used the word "b!tch"?
just change that to "HO" and you might get past ebays block. For an adult section this makes no sense at all. Just keep plugging along. [no pun intended]
posted on January 7, 2003 05:59:33 PM new
Absolutely not!!
Do not keep plugging along...
Find out from ebay exactly what it was that triggered the ad to be ended. Then fix it so that it won't be done again. You only get so many 'automatically ended auctions' before they suspend you. I know from experience. Even if you try to get in touch with them and fail, they will can your Butt off of Ebay. Then it is a long drawn out process to get back on ebay.
Do yourself a BIG favor... Contact ebay and find out what it was. They even have a service where you can send your proposed ad to them first and they will tell you if it is okay on ebay.
I have a bunch of bulk magazines that a friend want to consign with me, I am hesitant, already being suspended for a very stupid reason, because my ebay is my livelihood right now.
posted on January 7, 2003 09:08:11 PM new
I'm with Reamond. One wonders why eBay even bothers having an adult section now. It sure didn't use to be like that.
posted on January 7, 2003 10:05:02 PM new
The Mature Audiences area generates a lot of revenue for ebay. Considering the ebay greed factor it's almost impossible to visualize ebay ever closing that section down.
posted on January 8, 2003 06:34:11 AM newThank you for replying everybody,
I guess that there is more than one concrete reason that they deleted my ad.
[*][u] Using the word b!tch[/u]
Ok, isn't a b!tch a pregnant dog? (Maybe I should email them and explain that the b-word isn't considered profanity in Canada ) but thank you TRAI for suggesting that I use the word "HO". Seriously, they couldn't consider that profanity?
[*][u] Parts Of My Description [/u]
Most of the wording is clean,family friendly and very well written but these lines could of spoilt it for me:
'that God himself would have wanted to fondle, leaned over and whispered in my ear, "I want to s*ck your cock".'
'Welcome to Fantasy Island"! Let me tell you, this kind of insidious bullsh!t is just guaranteed'
[i] 'Not to brag, Ross, but this sh!t is going on all the time now! It doesn't matter how old she is, if she has a boyfriend or husband or if I'm her "type"....NOTHING MATTERS! You're a fuking genius!'
[i]'This woman adores me, not because I am a hunk (because I am not), not because I am rich (because I am not) but because I know what I want, I go after it, and I don't put up with any sh*t! So there is no sh*t and a life without sh*t is better for both of us. Now there are two people who respect and love me...my girlfriend and best of all ME!
Pat McMillen
Crestline, CA' [/i] lol (talk about limited vocab!!
What if I replaced some of the letters w/stars? f**k s**t?
Personally, I try my best to eradicate these vulgar words completely from my vocabulary whether verbal or written, of course I didn't write the script to my ad copy.
Do yourself a BIG favor... Contact ebay and find out what it was. They even have a service where you can send your proposed ad to them first and they will tell you if it is okay on ebay.
Yeah INTERCRAFT this sounds like a logical decision. The address that sent me that email is [email protected]. I tried searching the whole site to find what email to email, Does anyone reading this know what the email is regarding these matters?
I desire to have a happy relationship w/eBay and really try to avoid rocking the boat.
posted on January 8, 2003 06:37:35 AM new
[i]Most of the wording is clean,family friendly and very well written but these lines could of spoilt it for me:
'that God himself would have wanted to fondle, leaned over and whispered in my ear, "I want to s*ck your cock".'[/i]
you think?
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
[ edited by wgm on Jan 8, 2003 06:38 AM ]
posted on January 8, 2003 07:28:48 AM new
Morning!
I have just completed selling all my Romance books from 50s & 60's, and each time I listed them I worried that Ebay would boot them off. They did boot off 15 of my auctions, with the same reason as you received from them.
Until I realized............anything in the title that referred to by name or pictures.........of ...child, girl, whips, bondage, suffering, incensed, touching of genitals, weather it be a picture or a word,
is not acceptable with Ebay, even under the mature category, ..............If you turn your book covers to not show the pictures, they will also boot your auction off.
I have received a few warnings, until one warning came saying,........this is the last warning, we have given you many warnings if you continue to list this type of material, you will be suspended.
Now I finally figured it all out after listing many of these auctions. This mature site is meant for items that only adults would be allowed to view, but yet they don't like having out of the ordinary topics on sex...............but when I check out the site there were lots of X-rated material that should not have been allowed to stay up on Auction, compared to what I saw, my books were Kindergarten material..........
But you don't argue with Ebay, because you never win.
You just need to follow the guidelines because it is not worth being suspended over.
It's always best to play by the rules, we don't have to like them, but we do have to follow them.
posted on January 8, 2003 08:29:09 AM new
You may add getting thrown off AW to your resume soon if you're not careful. You're not very careful with what you say on auctions or public forums.
posted on January 8, 2003 08:36:02 AM new
tooltimes.............please explain what you mean. And what your referring to. Short sentences with warnings don't say enough of your thoughts.
posted on January 8, 2003 08:59:59 AM new
I can honestly say I have never been into the adult area, but if you are listing in the adult area don't the buyers realize that the item or items that you are selling are adult. Do you have to put all that junk in your description? Just asking, maybe I better take a look in there. I hope I am not shocked....
posted on January 8, 2003 09:05:47 AM new
Libra63
I agree with you, all describtions is not necessary for listing when your listing items in the Mature Section, just the titles would be needed.
But some of the titles are not allowed, so reading the guidelines is very important.
posted on January 8, 2003 09:24:35 AM new
If you can't figure out what parts of gmx's post are in strict violation of AW guidelines then that fairly sad.
You must remember that children can easily read these posts too.
The post doesn't really bother me at all but I can easily see a church attender getting upset with the post and emailng an AW moderator.
posted on January 8, 2003 09:30:52 AM new"You may add getting thrown off AW to your resume soon if you're not careful. You're not very careful with what you say on auctions or public forums."
TOOLTIMES MY BUDDY..... IF THERE IS ANYTHING WHATSOEVER THAT I SAID THAT MIGHT OF OFFENDED YOU IN ANYWAY THEN PLEASE LET ME KNOW.....I WANT TO MAKE MONEY NOT WAR!!
and the funny thing is I am not even selling porn! I'm simply selling a Seduction Textbook
posted on January 8, 2003 09:44:37 AM new
With all the spam e-mails there is very little that shocks me. But I don't see any point in putting all that description on the board here either. Perhaps you are deliberately trying to get a reaction out of some of us? I know that there are tattletales here so perhaps one of them will report it to AW.
As for children reading this forum? I don't think it's the type of place a child would be attracted to if they got on a computer.
If someone that posts here is allowing their child to read this forum along with them you really have to wonder about that parent. Do little Johnny or Susie have to share everything Momma or Poppa do?
posted on January 8, 2003 03:26:25 PM new
GMX I am hardly a prude and am certainly old enough to have experienced life in all its glory... but really!!!! this sentence was uncalled for and unnecessary and VERY!! offensive in your description and on this page.
'that God himself would have wanted to fondle, leaned over and whispered in my ear,_____!!
I don't give a hoot what you or anyone else sells but if you want to make a living or just get rid of your extra junk on eBay... trust me and the others who have responded to this post don't pick a fight with ebay they win ALWAYS!
posted on January 8, 2003 08:39:22 PM new
Maybe if you sold something that really matters this would not have happened. Here's a tip, find something else to sell bro.
posted on January 9, 2003 01:57:02 AM new
Your last statement about selling a Seduction textbook says it all. Seems to me that just putting that in the auction would be enough. Seduction does not seem to be a bad word. and textbook says it all- teaching help for seduction. PEROID. If that got kicked off then all the adult things should as I crused through there one time and it was revolting ast what they had there- no my cup of tea but then they did not hold a gun to my head to go there either!!!! if the book looks offensive do not put a picture with it. you might mention that contents are adult only contents anyone wanting to know can bid on it.
posted on January 10, 2003 07:38:49 AM new"Seduction does not seem to be a bad word. and textbook says it all- teaching help for seduction. PEROID. If that got kicked off then all the adult things should as I crused through there one time and it was revolting ast what they had there- no my cup of tea but then they did not hold a gun to my head to go there either!!!!"
IRKED you are right. This isn't even porn! It's essentially just self-help literature.
I am still wondering how you can have an ADULT ad in an ADULT category w/out getting booted out!
Anyway...
Made some drastic revisions to the ad copy and re-submitted it to eBay:
[*] Put stars in the cuss words (f**K)
[*] Changed the b-word in the title [i]from "Get any b!tch you want" to "-This book will SHOWYOU how to GET ANYWOMAN!-"
[*] I even put a special message at the bottom of the ad copy: [i]"This auction ad copy has been specifically altered as requested by eBay.com, in endeavour to maintain a harmonious relationship with the eBay staff"
I was deeply surprised when they ended it AGAIN......
We regret to inform you that your eBay auction:
2905524340 -This book will SHOWYOU how to GET ANYWOMAN!-
has been ended. All fees associated with this auction have been credited to your account.
The item you have listed does not appear to be consistent with eBay guidelines.
eBay cannot allow items such as you have listed to be listed on our site. The eBay Mature Audiences policy places strict limitations on the types of sexually-oriented material that can be placed on the eBay core site as well as in the Mature Audiences section of the site. It is very important that you review this policy thoroughly before listing these types of items in the future. Additional violations of this policy can even lead to the suspension of the eBay account.
This policy can be viewed in its entirety at the following URL:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-mature.html
Here are some examples of sexually-oriented material that would not be permitted. Note that this type of material is prohibited whether it appears in the title, description text, images or even on web pages that are linked from the listing.
The following will not be permitted:
- Persons may not touch another persons breast with their mouths
- Describing the item as hardcore
- Images depicting people touching their own genitals/anus or other's genitals/ anus. This includes images showing oral contact with breasts or genitalia.
- Sellers may not block, crop or edit images that would otherwise not be allowed on eBay.
- Description or photos stating that the box or video covers are not allowed because they are to graphic are not permitted
- No images that depict only genitalia
- Descriptions depicting penetration or oral sexual acts and graphic portrayals of human genitalia
- Images portraying graphic sexual activity or graphic portrayals of human genitalia
- Any reference to Sadomasochism (S&M) or other sexually-oriented material that features pain, torture, rough sex, bodily injury, rape or violence.
- Hidden camera videos and amateur videos containing adult/sexual activity
- Listing descriptions depicting graphic violence and/or obvious bodily injury
- Items featuring semen or other bodily fluids.
- Inappropriate language such as Hardcore or Extreme
- Necrophelia
- Links to sites that contain items prohibited on eBay (including those outlined in our Mature Audiences policy and those that do not comply with our Links and Advertisements and Credits policies)
- Listing titles which represent any of the above and what is covered under our existing policy
- Descriptions or titles which describe an item as XX or above
- Descriptions or titles in some cases containing profanity
- Used underwear - including but not limited to, boxer shorts, panties, briefs, athletic supporters
For a better understanding of our listing guidelines please visit the following URL:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-list.html
For information on other items prohibited on eBay please view the following URL:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-items.html
For more information on why eBay has ended an auction, please visit:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-endauction.html
Future auctions listed that fail to meet our listing guidelines will be ended early and repeated violations may jeopardize your account status. We value you as a member of our community and wish to continue our relationship, so we respectfully ask you to refrain from any violations of the Listing Policies or User Agreement in the future.
Please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions about listing procedures. If you have questions regarding a specific item, please email us at [email protected].
We thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Regards,
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
eBay
eBay seems to be very bad at communicating. Who can I contact?
posted on January 10, 2003 09:03:53 AM new
gmx.............did you read my post.......it tells you just what you cant do.
I have been through the same thing with Ebay, and you just need to clean up you listings, and not list....(NOT LIST) any book with explicit pictures and titles with certain words in them,
By doing what your doing using stars, this doesn't change the fact, that what your listing has words or pictures that is against Ebays guidelines.
There is an entire section with guidelines.........I suggest you read it over carefully.
You will not be a winner!......so follow the rules and enjoy your Selling.
Too much of your time is consumed with what is not allowed, try listing what is allowed.
posted on January 13, 2003 09:52:37 AM new
I just went to pay a visit to the adult section, first time in a while... Things have sure changed there!
I make a really lovely handcrafted "marital aid" type of thing... I tried selling it on ebay, and that adults section was full of auctions like "COLLEGE COED SCREAMS WHEN SHE %^&*!!!!!" and GET YOUR $%& $ %%^&^ED ANYWHERE ANYTIME!!!" and more. My tasteful obect d' art was lost in the sea of hardcore. The auction titles look pretty demure nowadays.
Take a look, use your thesaurus, there are ways to describe absolutely anything in clean, unobjectionable language that your maiden aunt (If you have one) would be able to hear. Consider it a challenge.
(Can we use html tags in our messages mod?)
