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 grumpyebayer
 
posted on January 15, 2003 04:03:10 PM new
Like many sellers ( or so I thought), I leave feedback in bulk several times a month. Do the rest of you guys leave feedback in bulk or am I the lone gunman?

Recently I have had a rash of "feedback beggars". One lady has written to me 4 times in one week asking for feedback. I explained how I left feedback. She has over 500 positives. She has left 16 negs for sellers who "refused to leave feedback". All of the sellers except one left her a negative in return. One seller said: "10 emails in 1wk asking for feedback". That is harassment.

I am going to leave her a negative in a few minutes for paying slow. She will get that feedback she wants so badly.


One buyer is turning me in to the "ebay authorities" for not following the ebay rules. What rule did I violate? The one that says, I "must leave feedback with 24 hours of getting payment". I have no idea where he found that rule on the site.


 
 capyoda
 
posted on January 15, 2003 04:20:19 PM new
I wouldn't really leave negative feedback for paying slow (unless its over 30 days or 10-20 days the buyer promised to pay) but yeah thats just me.

I dont understand why some people are so feedback hungry.. especially if she has 500 feedbacks already.

I have only over 90 sucessful transactions for now but only 42 or so has left feedback.. so...

she shouldnt' really make all that fuss and send all those emails, obviously it gets her unnecessary negatives...

I think lots of sellers do feedback in bulk and occasionally I do too but if a buyer request to have feedback asap I do it whenever I have time.

I wouldn't change ur method just cuz of this one feedback hungry user.

 
 tooltimes
 
posted on January 15, 2003 04:21:19 PM new
Sounds like an imaginary ebay rule that voices in their head keep reminding them of.

 
 grumpyebayer
 
posted on January 15, 2003 04:32:40 PM new
She paid VERY slow. Auction ended early December. I got her payment last week.

Sounds like an imaginary ebay rule that voices in their head keep reminding them of.

I wonder if it's the same voices telling me to send him a "grumpy" email.
 
 neonmania
 
posted on January 15, 2003 05:02:33 PM new
I had one last month the drove me wild. They purchased 4 items. Took over a month and a non paying bidder alert to get payment from them but in the meantime got placed on their twice weekly mailing list altering me to auctions THEY were selling.

Out of generosity I lef tthem a single positive feedback for which I was rewarded with a bombardment of requests for feedback on the other three items. I emailed them and told them that they should take the gift I gave them of the positive and go home.

They then replied stating that they REALLY wanted the other three.

I finally emailed told them that they did not seem to understand that I
1) Resented having to wait a month to get their payment
2) Resented having to file with ebay to get their attention
3) Resented being added to their email list without permission or consultation
4) Resented still recieving said newsletter despite mentioning my displeasure in previous emails

However, if they TRULY wanted the other 3 feedbacks left, I was now more than happy to leave them if they insisted but they should understand that they did so at the risk of the full force of my resentment shining thru in each of them.

I never heard from them again and have been removed from the mailing list.
[ edited by neonmania on Jan 15, 2003 05:05 PM ]
 
 blairwitch
 
posted on January 15, 2003 05:34:42 PM new
I make it clear to buyers NO feedback is left until they leave me. Hate to do it, but I wont put up with feedback threats from morons.

 
 fetish128
 
posted on January 15, 2003 06:07:47 PM new
Folks.

This is sooooooo simple, when they get the whatever and they are Happy,,,,They thank YOU with a feed back if they even care to give it. If they don't who cares? When they do, it takes about a minute to give it. NEVER!!!!! give it first!!! NEVER! When you get the moron who gives a NEGATIVE,,then you can merely thank them with a NEG right back,,,,Get what you give. No explanations are really needed. They think it's a one way street...they just found out,,,,it works TWO ways.....Why would I, as a seller EVER give it first,,,,,because they paid? ha, poor excuse. What if they never got it? It's all smashed?...Where are you now with having left a pos to a buyer? THEY are the end of the deal......It's not oiver until they GET it and ARE Happy.....



Whhhhhhiiiiiiip It,,,,,,Whip it GOOD!
 
 trai
 
posted on January 15, 2003 06:58:50 PM new
Yep, its not over till the fat lady sings! If you leave feedback in bulk, fine. Since you told her that she can wait a bit. I would not leave a neg just because she was late ,just leave nothing.



 
 sanmar
 
posted on January 15, 2003 07:44:50 PM new
I guess I am a lucky son of a gun. I have never had anyone bug me for a feedback. I give a positive feedback to those who pay promptly. i.e. P/P within 24 hrs. I feel they deserve it. I never worry about some jerk saying that my item didn't live up to the description, because it does. I hjaven't had a neg in 2 yrs. & the last one was my own fault. When you sellers start being honest & give honest answers, then you won't have problems.

 
 neglus
 
posted on January 15, 2003 07:57:27 PM new
I use the AW post-sale tracking system and mark the item "paid", "shipped", send out shipment notification and do the feedback in one fell swoop - works great and the feedback I have received has improved a lot since I started using the system (lots of comments about good communication)..AND i have an accurate on-line record of the status of each item! I don't wait to receive feedback to give it..and knock on wood..it hasnt come back to haunt me yet!

 
 grumpyebayer
 
posted on January 15, 2003 11:16:35 PM new
I don't wait on them to leave feedback. I leave it in bulk. They usually get it, good or bad.


I would not leave a neg just because she was late ,just leave nothing.

If she pays fast, I should reward her with good feedback, but if she pays slow and does not follow my terms, I should do nothing?

NOPE! I am giving the customer what she wants-- feedback. Many of the sellers that left her negatives also mention slow or late payment.

I left the negative.
 
 neonmania
 
posted on January 15, 2003 11:42:26 PM new
:: When you sellers start being honest & give honest answers, then you won't have problems.::

Scuse? Of the 8 negs I have right now - 1 is because I didn't answer an e-mail on Sunday, 6 are from 2 deadbeat bidders and 1 is actually my fault because I sent the item to the wrong buyer (stupidy at it's best HOWEVER I emailed this buyer and asked her to resend her address so that I could correct it since the other bidder returned it and she never replied).

Before you start throwing out blanket indictments of dishonesty you need to consider that there are some first class losers out there buying on ebay with a hair trigger keyboard when it comes to negs.

 
 kiara
 
posted on January 15, 2003 11:59:58 PM new
When you sellers start being honest & give honest answers, then you won't have problems.

sanmar, by selling fine china you will most likely attract a better buyer than neonmania's body jewelry buyers.

This has nothing to do with honesty. You can be super honest and still have problems.

Start selling body jewelry and see what happens.


 
 neonmania
 
posted on January 16, 2003 12:16:49 AM new
Amen Kiara - I can't wait till I get rid of the rest of this stuff! I don't understand how my friend managed to run a business manufacturing and selling body jewelry for 10 years without losing her mi...... NEvermind... she's a nutcase and now I understand why.

 
 kiara
 
posted on January 16, 2003 12:23:02 AM new
At least you don't have to look at your bidders. I have seen all kinds of belly buttons over the last few years..... innies, outies... infected ones, you name it. Yikes!



grumpyebayer, sorry for derailing your thread.





[ edited by kiara on Jan 16, 2003 12:31 AM ]
 
 grumpyebayer
 
posted on January 16, 2003 01:05:13 AM new
grumpyebayer, sorry for derailing your thread.

No prob. Your topic is funny.
 
 Dragonmom
 
posted on January 16, 2003 07:56:06 AM new
Kiara, EEYEU! I actually like body jewelry, but that looks like bugs... And I can just imagine the wind whistling through all the holes... *shudder*
It is so true about what you sell attracting one type of buyer or another. My "wizard wands" are nearly trouble free. Some other occult items I have sold, really attract problems and I decided not to bother.
My funniest feedback problem lately- luckily it was a nice problem- is a friend who bought a wand on ebay and left me feedback as soon as she'd won the auction! And emailed me to say "I left you feedback, leave me feedback okay" and the auction had been over about five minutes. I batch feedback like you, and she bugged me for a couple days about it. Because she is a friend, and has brain damage from a stroke, I went ahead and batched a little early... It was kind of cute, in this case.
 
 trai
 
posted on January 16, 2003 08:07:16 AM new
grumpyebayer
When I stated to leave this bidder nothing, what I meant was that this would drive them crazy.
I left the negative.
That I think was going over board for this, just because they get under your skin for asking is no reason to respond this way, late payment or not.

Sanmar
Am glad your system works for you, however as none of us can control what some trigger happy bidder will do, I will do what works the best for me.
Each seller has to find their own way for what works the best for them.

Just because I can.

[ edited by trai on Jan 16, 2003 08:09 AM ]
 
 kiara
 
posted on January 16, 2003 08:18:27 AM new
She has over 500 positives. She has left 16 negs for sellers who "refused to leave feedback". All of the sellers except one left her a negative in return. One seller said: "10 emails in 1wk asking for feedback". That is harassment.

I agree that is harassment. I would be tempted to leave her a negative also, especially if she compounded the situation by being a slow payer. No seller has to take this kind of crap.

dragonmom, I was wondering what effect all that metal will have on that guy as he ages? It's bound to drag his face down. I wonder if he buys on ebay?

http://www.probe.org/images/piercings.jpg



[ edited by kiara on Jan 16, 2003 08:24 AM ]
 
 
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