neglus
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posted on March 18, 2003 08:39:40 AM new
Must be something in the air! Today I had two buyers who missed the close of my auctions (two different auctions) and want to buy the items at the listed price. I offered to relist with a "buy it now" and send them the link ( i probably do this once or twice a day and it works very well) and they BOTH insist that it is hard for them to get access to PC's and want to buy outside of eBay....can i do this? I want to stay EBay kosher but sometimes i think we have to make an exception...
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neonmania
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posted on March 18, 2003 09:06:34 AM new
While I don't sell outside ebay during the auction I have had people email me after an item closes to see if it is still available. If I have the item I sell it. I had one woman doing last minute bidding on a string of toys. You could see her pattern... She bid on three items then about 5 minutes went by and she started bidding again on similiar items just as they were closing. There were two more items in the line that neither she nor anyone else bid on which I thought was strange because personally I thought there were the most interesting ones. Right after they ended she emailed that her computer locked up as she was bidding and by the time she was back online they were ending but she really wanted them. Of course I sold them to her. Ebay may have lost on the fee that time but she became a regular buyer, never asked again and spurred on many a bidding war as time went on so they made it on the backend : )
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reamond
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posted on March 18, 2003 09:51:48 AM new
If the buyer contacted you, and you are not ending an auction, there is nothing eBay can do to you, and I doubt eBay would do anything to the buyer.
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shawnb1
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posted on March 18, 2003 10:00:32 AM new
After the auction ends with no bids you can do anything you want with your item. Plus, you won't have to pay final value fees if you sell it off eBay.
[ edited by shawnb1 on Mar 18, 2003 10:01 AM ]
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sanmar
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posted on March 18, 2003 01:05:19 PM new
This is a situation that happened yesterday to me. I am doing some selling a as Trader Assistant. My client had a widget that he felt was worth $75.00. Well, the auction ended Sundayn night with a high bid of $50.oo I had an email from aperson in a neighboring city wanting to know if he could pick it up rather tha payin shipping. I had told him yes, but he didn't, so I emailed him today to see if he is still interested at the closing price. I see nothing wrong with this. My client is willing sell at this price.
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MAH645
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posted on March 18, 2003 02:54:12 PM new
I am getting alot of people wanting to buy either after the auction ends,or several more of the item I'm selling.
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meadowlark
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posted on March 18, 2003 03:44:00 PM new
Ebay guidelines state:
Sales Outside of eBay
eBay Policy:
Listings that attempt to make sales outside of eBay are not permitted and will be ended. The Insertion Fee will be automatically credited for that listing.
Examples:
*Using member contact information obtained from eBay or using any eBay feature to offer to sell an item outside of eBay to any of your bidders in a Reserve Not Met listing.
*Listings of catalogs from which buyers may directly order items are prohibited. In these situations, the seller will typically offer the catalog for low bid prices and complete sales outside of eBay for items found in the catalog.
*The eBay item page cannot refer to or promote the seller's individual Web site, off eBay sales or other businesses.
Address of this page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-outside-sales.html
I swear I thought it was against TOS to sell outside of Ebay if the person contacted you by email after the auction ended. That's not what the TOS says, unless it's a reserve auction that the reserve wasn't met. I swear it used to say basically that if the person found out about your goods or you as a seller on Ebay, you could never sell to them outside Ebay or you'd be NARU.
Does anyone else remember it being like that?? If it WAS the rule, I bet it would not hold up in court.
Patty
[ edited by meadowlark on Mar 18, 2003 03:51 PM ]
[ edited by meadowlark on Mar 18, 2003 03:51 PM ]
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REAMOND
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posted on March 18, 2003 05:27:16 PM new
If anyone contacts you the seller for an outside eBay sale and eBay sticks their nose in it, it's called interference in a business relationship and restraint of trade. That's why you will not find it in their TOS.
It is clear in the TOS that you can not use the auction page to direct buyers to off site sales, or use contact information from eBay (spam).
However, all of you should have information in your legitimate EOA emails with your sales web site, other items for sale etc.. You're nuts if you're not developing an online sales channel independent of eBay.
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bigpeepa
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posted on March 18, 2003 06:53:50 PM new
As we all know LOTS of stuff is not selling very well on Ebay these days. If the auction has ended with no luck on ebay. You can sell it to anyone you want. SO SELL IT!!!!!
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Libra63
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posted on March 19, 2003 03:07:17 AM new
I have a buyer that is interested in a product that I have not as yet listed on eBay. If I would sell it to them would this be a violation of eBay rules?
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neglus
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posted on March 19, 2003 06:33:41 AM new
THANKS EVERYONE!
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fleecies
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posted on March 19, 2003 08:28:02 AM new
Libra, if you haven't listed the product yet on eBay, then eBay has no interest in it. You could sell it anywhere to anyone, as long as you didn't go spamming eBay customers to initiate the sale. If someone contacts you about a product you have not yet listed on eBay, then you are free to sell the product to them outside of eBay.
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ahc3
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posted on March 19, 2003 09:06:55 AM new
If the item is currently running on ebay and someone contacts you to buy outside of ebay, I wouldn't do that. Once the auction has ended, it is fair game and ebay shouldn't get a cut. I've had people contact me about items that have sold asking me if I have other ones. I had one item that I offered as a second chance to someone, and he ended up purchasing a total of 45 items. Ebay only got their fees for the one he did a buy it now for. I'm willing to pay ebay for the services I use, but once the auction has ended, the customer is mine. If I get an offer from someone on an item that has ended without bids, I don't feel the need to relist this to give ebay a cut. I suppose one day they might make auction results only visible to buyer and seller. That would certainly reduce this and not be popular with both buyers and sellers.
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NearTheSea
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posted on March 19, 2003 11:48:14 AM new
I've had them too, but they usually want to buy it after it closes at a lower price. I don't answer those 
Libra.. you could tell the person that you will list it with a Buy it Now, tell them when, and do it that way, only if your uncertain there may be some kind of consequences from eBay. (which I doubt there would be, but just in case....)
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cta
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posted on March 19, 2003 11:54:54 AM new
Another good thing about selling off of eBay (granted you're following all the rules) is that even if they have something to complain about, at least they can't leave you negative feedback.
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kiara
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posted on March 19, 2003 12:18:00 PM new
I have a buyer that is interested in a product that I have not as yet listed on eBay. If I would sell it to them would this be a violation of eBay rules?
No, it isn't in violation. Many times I sell things and the buyer specifically asks me if I ever find any others or a related item to let them know. Whether I have it on hand right at the moment or whether I get it two months later it is mine to sell to whoever I please.
Just because you list something on ebay it doesn't mean that they should get a share of all future sales. Remember you are the one doing all the work and you work for yourself to make a profit.
When ebay runs around and finds me the merchandise to sell only then will I consider giving them another fee when I sell it.
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Libra63
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posted on March 19, 2003 12:39:39 PM new
Thanks for all your suggestions. I had a buyer that bought quite a bit of merchandise from me and all she did was ask if I had any more of the same kind. If I can save the fees that would be great. I do, as I cannot list everything all at once. I am a one person seller so I list every other week as not to get confused with the auctions that went off. I have a husband but he is useless. Well not really useless as he does cook the supper but with eBay he just doesn't understand.
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