posted on April 24, 2003 09:04:02 AM new
Sold item to buyer, stated shipping in auction, No need for any emailing, He sends pay pal, I ship, end of story. So I thought.
2weeks pass, I get feedback, Neutral,Won't give feedback till given first. (LOL, Which only makes perfect sense, what if it were smashed to pieces? Never gets it? Wrong thing, you all know on and on)
I e mail him congradulating him on his soon to be NEGATIVE.
He writes nasty response. I thought,,,,, did we have a cat fight e'r something before? I check e mails, Nothing, his pay pal and my ups number to him.
I wonder, who am I dealing with? check it out. lots of feeds all pos. hmmmm, buyer sells too! what's he sell? WHAT!!!!! My Auction!!!! picture and word for word!!!!
I contact e bay,,,,,LOL, I just got the "VERY" canned response, auction has been removed. period. No comments, nothing. not even a real person I am sure.
NOW! my question is, FEEDBACK to him. Of course he WILL get the DREADED Complaint but! (his stealing my auction far outweighs his sneiveling about feed back.
I would like some creative ideas of what to say. He HAD a perfect Score. I have mine in my head including the auction number to be posted right in the feed back.
posted on April 24, 2003 11:32:28 AM new
Give him a negative.
The stealing images and/or auction content rarely matters to ebay as you may have stolen it from another ebay in the first place. Ebay shies aways from content theft issues. On popular ebay items there are dozens of sellers using the same photos and exact descriptions and titles. It's a lost cause.
posted on April 24, 2003 11:38:40 AM new
Auctionace - not entirely true. I had a competing seller stealing my photos and descriptions. I reported them to Ebay and had the auctions ended. The idiot kept doing it and after the third complaint I filed, they were NARU'd.
posted on April 24, 2003 12:01:03 PM new
Unless of course they are dumb enough to use your hosted images where you can bust them on theft of bandwidth.... or really have some fun be replacing the image. I used to replace them with a note explaining that the seller was a scumbag and pointing the back to my site and auctions.
posted on April 24, 2003 12:10:55 PM neweBay isn't going to judge who the content belongs to.
Not true all the time. Sometimes ebay will surprise you and do the right thing. I would report it, just stick to the facts and give them all the info you have.
If they do look and see that you have had the descripion and photos in other auctions there is a good chance they will pull the lazy thiefs auction.
Put this loser on your email and bidders block so you do not have to deal with them again.
posted on April 24, 2003 12:12:12 PM new
fetish said that ebay already removed the auction where her buyer used her pictures and descriptions to sell an item. I just got the "VERY" canned response, auction has been removed. period.
I have seen ebay do this several times so I know that they can remove the auction if you complain and show proof that you used the picture and description before the thief did.
As far as feedback to leave him? He probably does deserve a negative but I'm not sure how you would word it. Maybe along the lines of "WARNING Stole my pics & text..." ?
Hopefully someone else can help you there. Good luck!
posted on April 24, 2003 12:47:34 PM new
I have every intention of negging the low life scum sucker. I just ask for some creative verbage to go with it. What would you all say in the Negative feedback? e bay KILLED the auction without question.
posted on April 24, 2003 01:07:30 PM new
REAMOND - All of my photos were copyrighted and I had filed the VERO paperwork with Ebay. All I had to do was file the complaint that they were using my copyrighted photos without my consent and the auctions were ended immediatley and with no questions asked. They had alse copied my descriptions word for word so that the auctions look very similar. It was very cut and dried from Ebay's point of view.
posted on April 24, 2003 01:38:28 PM new
tomservo92- All I had to do was file the complaint that they were using my copyrighted photos without my consent and the auctions were ended immediatley and with no questions asked
And all the "infringer" has to do is file a counterclaim and you have 14 days to file in court in the "infringer's" jurisdiction and if you don't, eBay will allow the "infringer" to relist the material.
eBay is not offering you any protection that is not required by federal law. All you need to do to get material taken down on any ISP site that is infringing on your intellectual peoperty rights is fill out the proper information under penalty of perjury and send it to the ISP and they either take the material down or face vicarious liability. That is all VeRO is and the same system applies to all ISPs.
And all the other party has to do is file a counterclaim.
posted on April 24, 2003 02:45:50 PM new
The picture seems to overide my feed back question. My picture darn near has my very signature on it. A tough one to disprove anywhere. Darn near? Not! On second thought, it has my Title right "in" the picture!
I just want some good ideas for the feed...He's a crook, plain and simple. E bay killed his auction......I like the "lite" approach ideas,,,,,Johnny! you've been a bad boy! auction theft is NOT nice, shame shame on you. Now go to bed with NO supper!
Others I have contacted agree with Shop4shoes light spirited idea.
shop4shoes, got any 8 inch RED spikes, size 14? Hollywood this weekend. Thanks!
posted on April 24, 2003 03:56:21 PM new
Place your sig file in the feedback box.
Seriously .... Whhhhhhiiiip It! Snnnnaaaap IT! Snap! snap! snap! ooooo
posted on April 24, 2003 04:26:01 PM new
Shop4shoes,,,,,,Oh my God!!!! the GUY!? was thrilled to get them???? too much!!!! what would a GUY want with them? Maybe I am to sheltered?
posted on April 24, 2003 04:47:16 PM new
You are waaaaaaay too sheltered. He also wanted the Whiting & Davis halter top my CAT was prancing around the lawn with.
I told him. The CAT isn't supposed to have that outside. It barely fits my boobs and you are a least a cup bigger than me. It wouldn't fit you anyway.
posted on April 24, 2003 05:33:51 PM new
Shocked!!!!!! What area are you in? I am right in the Hollywood area and that even shocks me!!!!!! oh my God!!!!!!HE wanted to buy the BRA too!!!!!!!! such a Queen BEE......SNNNNNaaaaaaaap!!!! I'll spank him........Goood!!!!!!!!!Snap!!!! SnaP! snnnnnnnnnnnap!!!!!!!!!
posted on April 24, 2003 06:36:45 PM new
Fetish - you surprise me, that close to Santa Monica Bl and you are surprised to to hear about guys and stillettos. No more Friday night listing fests for you..... Go explore the wonders of the supermaket of sin and debauchery you reside in.
posted on April 24, 2003 06:53:12 PM new
Libra63,,,,,Thanks for the rules,,,,,,this had nothing to do with lazy,,,,,,he,,,,,,the idiot that he is re titled my picture,,,,, I won,,,,,hahahha,,,,,,,He is most likely on DRUGS and overdoesed......He obviously thought he was being SMART and ended up looking most STUPID! E bay killed his auction with MY info......NOW he WILL pay the price of being a low life theif in the middle of the night. Fetish has NO MERCY,,,,,,You rip me,,,,,,,WWWWWhhhhhhaaaaaaaackkkkkkk!!!!!! SSSSSSSSnnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaappppppppp!!!!!!!!! Crrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaack!!!!!!!!! Beat them to a pulp!!!!!!!!!! Snap!!!!! Snap!!!!!! Snap!!!!!!!!! ooooooooooooo!!!!!! Yeah!!!!!!! hurts so GOOD,,,,,,,,Come on Baby make it hurt so good!!!!!! black is black and Blue too.........WWWWWWWWhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted on April 25, 2003 08:33:49 AM new
REAMOND - And your point? The system you described has worked perfectly for me. Everyone that has stolen my intellectual property for auction purposes has had their auctions ended, period. No couterclaims because they know good and well I can prove they stole it. I never said I have some "special protection" from Ebay. I just followed the procedures for filing the complaint and the problem was resolved quickly.
posted on April 25, 2003 08:49:27 AM new
I simple email, stating that your images and text are copyrighted, and that they have to pay you royalties for the service should hopefully do the trick. As a professional photographer, I can tell you your rights are quite limited.
You would have to do more than what it is probably worth to take care of the problem. I am guessing they weren't satisfied with the product, and instead of keeping it, they decided to sell it.
I had someone stealing photos from me as well. They ignored my repeated emails, I contacted ebay, and they were so slow that the auction ended before they did anything.
posted on April 25, 2003 09:24:36 AM new
Still looking for some creative feed back. He bought from me, cried that he got no feed back, then steals my auction completely. The product he bought was brand new ! I had NO previous convesations with him. I feel he only bought to to cry the blues. why? ya got me? but! He will get a NEG! He can count on that! I just want to say in the BEST way possible pointing to him as the theif that he is and giving me a nuetral, his statement is,,,,,Won't give feedback till the buyer does,,,,,,,whaaaaa!!!! whaaaaaaa!
Whhhhhhiiiip It! Snnnnaaaap IT! Snap! snap! snap! ooooo!
[ edited by fetish128 on Apr 25, 2003 09:25 AM ]
[ edited by Twelvepole on Apr 24, 2003 03:52 PM ]
that he got no feed back,
then steals my auction completely
. The product he bought was brand new 
but!
that he is and giving me a nuetral,
his statement is,,,,,Won't give feedback till the buyer does,,,,,,,whaaaaa!!!! whaaaaaaa!