ccharned
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posted on May 6, 2003 03:18:51 PM new
While browsing Ruby Lane recently, I ran across an item I liked but the picture couldn't be enlarged to really view it well. I was going to right click with mouse and save to file to remind myself of it and ask the seller a question about the item. To my surprise - actually delight - I received a small display message that the photo was copyright 2003, etc. Then the small window closed and I was unable to download the picture despite several tries.
Having had numerous images swiped in the past on eBay and being a published photographer, I was pretty interested in this idea, for use in eBay auctions. Unfortunately, when I e'mailed the seller about this - what software, etc., she seemed unaware that this copyright notice appeared for her. Her answer was: "I guess the software I use does that. I use the Pagis software that came with the IBM scanner I have."
Is it just Pagis software that does this? Am able to save other Ruby Lane images when the need arises. Sure would love to know how to display a copyright notice and disable auction photo downloads! Thanks for any help with this.
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tomwiii
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posted on May 6, 2003 03:56:22 PM new
Big Whooppee-dodo! All one has to do to over-ride is "VIEW>>SOURCE" and copy the image url! Viola! Says the froggie to da princess!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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ccharned
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posted on May 6, 2003 04:27:41 PM new
Didn't ask how to view source, asked if anyone knew how to insert the copyright mechanism when someone goes to save a picture. Thanks anyway.
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auctionace
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posted on May 6, 2003 04:32:36 PM new
It's probably in the source code of the auction description and probably has nothing to do with the actual photo. Your answer lies in the coding of the auction.
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tomwiii
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posted on May 6, 2003 04:37:04 PM new
There are ooodles of javascript proggies out the that disable RIGHT-CLICK TO VIEW PHOTO!
Me point (arrow) was that even with the proggie installed, it is essentially a waste as anybody can view source to copy the pic's url & thus the pic!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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tomwiii
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posted on May 6, 2003 04:42:59 PM new
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
<!-- This script and many more are available free online at -->
<!-- The JavaScript Source!! http://javascript.internet.com -->
<!-- Begin
function right(e) {
var msg = "Sorry, you don't have permission to right-click.";
if (navigator.appName == 'Netscape' && e.which == 3) {
alert(msg);
return false;
}
if (navigator.appName == 'Microsoft Internet Explorer' && event.button==2) {
alert(msg);
return false;
}
else return true;
}
function trap()
{
if(document.images)
{
for(i=0;i<document.images.length;i++)
{
document.images[i].onmousedown = right;
document.images[i].onmouseup = right;
}
}
}
// End -->
</SCRIPT>
</HEAD>
<!-- STEP ONE: Copy the event handler into the BODY tag -->
<BODY onLoad="trap()">
<!-- Script Size: 0.81 KB -->
http://tinyurl.com/b5ij
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
[ edited by tomwiii on May 6, 2003 04:44 PM ]
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ahc3
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posted on May 6, 2003 04:50:29 PM new
This won't really stop people who know what they are doing. It might slow a few down, but if someone really wants to take your image, there is not much you can do except sue them perhaps...
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tomwiii
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posted on May 6, 2003 04:52:14 PM new
er...dat was my point
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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replaymedia
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posted on May 6, 2003 04:53:23 PM new
Tom's mostly right, all you have to do is look at the source. You may be interested to know that there are also scripts that prevent you from looking at the source code, so that helps too.
BUT....
There is an even more foolproof way to steal images. Just hit the PRINTSCREEN button on your keyboard. It captures the whole screen. You then crop out what you don't want. There is no way to protect against this. Javascript can't turn this off.
If they want your image they are going to get it.
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kiara
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posted on May 6, 2003 05:08:00 PM new
There is another easy way to get the picture besides the source code. Not sure if I want to give a picture thief an easier way of stealing but it's a combination of using your mouse and your space bar.
Meadowlark recently posted this thread and I tried it on the Elvis pic and got the properties very easily without looking at the source code.
http://www.e-powersellers.com/javaclick.htm
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auctionace
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posted on May 6, 2003 05:55:04 PM new
It will slow down or stop most casual photo thiefs. A determined thief will still be able to steal the image.
Look at the average ebayer on these very message boards. Most can not even use the simple USBB codes to post a simple URL link. Therefore, most ebayers will not have the capability of stealing those auction images protected in that way.
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ccharned
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posted on May 6, 2003 07:23:04 PM new
Thanks for all the input about this. I may check out some of the Java stuff. I think auctionace may have a point: that this idea might detr the casual auction thief and those who are not terribly sophisticated re: computers.
And I'm partly venting. I had one person e'mail me and offer to buy one-time, limited use of an image, and I appreciated his courtesy. Then followed by a rash of e'mails from people saying what a great image I put up, blah, blah, and they saved it and one man writing a book (He should know better!) wrote the other day saying he saved my image for use in his book! He got a kind of cold, ice queen response from me. And this despite a small notice at the bottom of each listing that photos and text are copyrighted by me. Grrrr...thanks for listening.
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msincognito
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posted on May 7, 2003 08:17:45 AM new
ccharned I think you nailed it - a lot of people don't realize image theft is actually wrong ("If it's on the Internet, it's public domain!" Your lawyers would probably also like the idea that you took an extra step to put people on notice.
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