posted on May 8, 2003 12:10:34 PM new
Hi all! At an estate sale today I bought for a few dollars a silent butler set--pan and scraper--with an "M" monogram and decorative edges. The back says Butler Silver Co., 925, quadruple.
I'm assuming this is silver. Does it mean quadruple silver PLATE or something else?
posted on May 8, 2003 01:17:20 PM new
I always thought if it was marked 925 it was silver not silver plate ...but lol I don't know Jack ! Here's what a local woman told me about silver ...hope it's correct so no one yells at me
> "925" is the English mark for sterling. It means that 75 parts of hard
> metal ( perhaps copper )is added to the 1000 pure silver to harden the
pure
> silver ..... SO...
>
> 1000 =pure silver. 75 from 1000= " 925".
>
> "800" is the mark for Continental silver ( German, often French, Russian
> etc. countries on the European continent. This means that 200 parts of the
> 1000 ( 1000=100% ) is a hardening metal, perhaps copper or other metals.
> SO...
>
> 1000 minus 200 = " 800".
>
> Mexican silver objects are often made of almost pure silver. They bend &
> wear much more rapidly than the Continental 800 silver & the
> 925 Sterling silver. Sometimes one sees " 950" on silver too. Mexican
> silver is usually marked " Mex" or something like that. One seldom finds
> really good silver jewelry made of pure silver in Mexico or anywhere else.
posted on May 8, 2003 01:50:12 PM new
Miscreant: Really?!!! You were at the estate sale here in Idyllwild?!!! Who are you, anyway. Have I seen you around (yes, probably). What else did you get there?
posted on May 8, 2003 02:12:45 PM new
I sure didn't buy any Hummels at those prices.
You might see me at Cafe Aroma, The Bread Basket, and others.
I did buy some sterling, porcelain, glass, pottery, and a very nice wood carving that will go for $200-$300. Go back to the sale because they are unpacking more boxes from the basement and those that were on the deck.
posted on May 8, 2003 03:12:34 PM new
Well, okay, I guess you either have a shop here in town or sell on ebay, or both? I didn't even check the prices on the Hummels because I can't stand Hummels and won't sell them! What were they asking?
Did you happen to get that big set of Haviland china on the dining room table? Are you the person who bought alllllll of those Erle Stanley Gardner hardbacks later on? I checked the ebay prices for those (most of which were book club editions) and they were going for nothing or $1.
If you have a shop here, I have a porcelain lamp, sort of Marie Antoinette figures on it, very ornate, that I'd like to consign somewhere here in I'wild.
Cafe Aroma has been closed all winter. I sing with the chef there who says they're going to reopen it anyday.
But have you tried The Greek Place? Not fancy, but good food.
posted on May 8, 2003 08:48:29 PM new
I don't have a shop and have slowed way down on ebay. The Hummels were way too high and they are slow movers anyway.
I didn't buy the Haviland or Gardner books because they are cheap on ebay although they do very well in used book stores.
I knew Mark closed Cafe Aroma for the winter. We will try the greek place place because we do love good food.
Where do you sing? And how long have you been on the hill? If you have been singing on the hill for awhile maybe we have heard you sing. I don't live on the hill but did spend a lot of time up there and may move there someday.
posted on May 8, 2003 09:01:13 PM new
I agree about the Haviland and Gardner books. I tried to sell a set of my husband's grandma's Haviland and had an awful time, locally (in another state); there was other Haviland also which had no name--no one knew what the pattern was, try as I could. I had looked up the Gardner books and could see they wouldn't be worth more than $1 or so each.
I sing with the Idyllwild Master Chorale (we've been joined the last two concerts by those talented singers from the I'wild Arts Academy and they're great). We did a concert at St. Margaret's in Hemet a couple of weeks ago.
The Greek Place doesn't have an extensive menu, but what they have is very reasonable and very tasty.
We've lived here 1.5 years; my husband's family has had a cabin 10 miles from here since 1925 and it's been the heart of his extended family all this time. So when we retired we decided to come to I'wild permanently and live here to be near the cabin and also because it is so heavenly up this way.
posted on May 8, 2003 11:17:23 PM new
Not only is our town relaxed, we all can wear whatever we want. I loved moving here from the fishbowl that our careers had made us live in, to this place where I can frump around and fit right in. People here have smiles on their faces, I tell our friends in the rest of the world, because we all know how lucky we are to live here.
The last Kozma auction I attended I bought absolutely nothing after sitting there for 7 hours. The collectors - or dealers? - were driving prices way above even retail for those collectibles, and it was pretty disgusting. I"m going to look in on the Kozma auction Saturday if I have time.
Well, we probably shouldn't be using up space here with our chatting. Nice talking to you!
