posted on July 3, 2003 06:08:48 PM new
Okay -- anyone profess to have experience in German porcelain - this might just stump you...
Let me preface this by saying that I try multiple channels to help ID things before I come here for help.
I can't ID what the heck this might be except for the obvious. It appears to be porcelain and I'm not sure what the metal would be on it. It doesn't look like silver at all - maybe brass, but don't think so.
Any help would be zehr gut and appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Wayne
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[ edited by TheFamilyBiz on Jul 3, 2003 06:09 PM ]
posted on July 3, 2003 07:44:20 PM new
Ok your making me jealous dang it !lol So many nice items...Beginning to think your the local cat burglar.High jacking good stuff from million dollar homes ! Very nice Victorian Motif going on here....make sure you say something about that.Maybe say something about the floral scene inside.Metal looks maybe copper? Have you tried to clean a small spot ? I suck at markings so you need a expert on that.At least this will bump your posting to the top.
posted on July 3, 2003 07:54:50 PM new
Toasted - At the risk of offending Fluffy - "Meow" -- that made me laugh out loud.
Actually, what you see in the metal is "cleaned" best it can be without risking any injury. Found a nice paste MAAS Intl. from La Grange, IL - got it at Home Depot. Wonderful stuff!
I appreciate the suggestion of mentioning the Victorian motif and the flowers... I'll have to ask the wife to see if she can research what the heck those flowers are... She's the research hound that gets most of the stuff ID-ed. She's just been banging her head against a few walls recently on a few things...
Couldn't figure out that simple cross on the bottom for the life of me. Looked in Kovel's Dictionary of Marks -- nothing close... And, it's raised from the surface, too.
Thanks again for the suggestion...
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posted on July 3, 2003 08:19:58 PM new
I think the FamilyBiz guy owns an antique store and he's now researching some items for possible runs on ebay. How can anyone have so many great items?
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posted on July 3, 2003 08:54:22 PM new
Rofl ! rut ro (scooby doo before the local spell check swoops down and says something about that)TheFamilyBiz .Sargent Stadanko
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posted on July 3, 2003 09:11:15 PM new
Honest - I don't! We've just been very fortunate to find some really great stuff at estate sales in a neighboring county. And, actually, I just look for things that might go well on eBay - with an eye to quality and what it looks like.
I got really lucky on one item that was thrown into a small lot that I got for about $5. It had a piece or two I wanted (and haven't been able to sell, BTW) - but this darn little aspirin tin from Paris, Tenn. ran up to $75.99 and the buyer was very happy to get it...
So, taking some of those profits and investing back into some finds for a couple of dollars each. This porcelain box went for $10.00. My luck, it won't get a bid since I'll probably list it at $24.99 to start.
I try not to list something before I get some idea of what it is - don't have to have the value, per se, but at least who the manufacturer was - and WHAT the heck it is. Have gotten burned in the past by listing something that I didn't know what it was, and then turn around to find it at auction again for double the price that was paid for it...
But, seriously, no store, just part-time right now... building up funds to re-invest to be able to buy higher ticket items - along with the risk that comes with that. Now, can afford to lose a few bucks here and there if something doesn't sell. Don't want to buy something for hundreds to find out it was a fake or there wasn't a market for it....
Thanks again for the compliments - you've ended my day on a high note. Fluffy pinned my shoulders back the other day asking when I was going to help others - since I've gotten a lot of help here. I try and will help as often as I can.
Wayne
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posted on July 4, 2003 05:26:23 AM new
you did not mention the size,how big is it.if this is the size of a pillbox and made in limoge,france,it would be called a limoge-handpainted porcelain hinged box.
german,english made them as well,the metal is brass .
recent years you see a lot of cheap imitations coming out of china,they are referred to as limoge style box.
posted on July 4, 2003 08:05:54 AM new
yes,mention the victorian couple.
looks like a good quality item,it is too big to be a pill box,could be be for holding cigarettes,you can get more money if it is a cigarette box
posted on July 4, 2003 03:00:44 PM new
I think it's the right size for cigarettes. Playing cards, of the standard size today, would fit width - but they would rattle around in the length.
Once stopwhining mentioned cigarettes, I could see them sitting in there... it would be just the right size.
Good thought though and it made me go back and look at it.
Wayne
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posted on July 5, 2003 12:56:48 PM new
kiara: I have been doing this for over 10 years without a problem. Sometimes you can't remove the stain, but in many cases the stains are gone in kust a few minutes. Also works on T-& Coffee pots. I have used this method in porcelain, & earthen ware. I have sent more pieces than I can remember to Replacements Ltd. without a single rejection.
Sanmar is on the wrong thread. I stand by my experience with this, Sanmar. I suspect that you are moving the pieces before the extent of the damage is realized. Fluffy is correct, it can leach out of the pores later and it does leave a white fuzz or the pieces turn yellow. Never use household bleach on antique porcelain or china.
If you google for the info there are lots of sites on the subject to support my claim.
Very nice Victorian Motif going on here....make sure you say something about that.Maybe say something about the floral scene inside.Metal looks maybe copper? Have you tried to clean a small spot ? I suck at markings so you need a expert on that.At least this will bump your posting to the top.
How can anyone have so many great items?