posted on July 5, 2003 10:36:46 PM new
If the predictions are correct, I would guess Ebay would probably be the #1 target. What other site has more exposure and opportunity? I would also suspect Paypal would be very close in the #2 spot.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
posted on July 5, 2003 11:01:00 PM new
I think this whole thing is another Media made farce to get press. The Michangelo bug and Milenium bug were overblown Media darlings and this story is a thousand times weaker and has no basis whatsoever. The old saying is that 'sex sales' but you know what else sells? ... fear.
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posted on July 5, 2003 11:21:25 PM new I think this whole thing is another Media made farce to get press.
I had a sister-in-law empty her bank account, purchased hundreds of pounds of canned and dried food, gas generator, and everything else you can imagine to prepare for the Y2K bug. On new years eve 1999 instead of going out and partying she and her husband had kerosene lits burning waiting for the power to go out.
The media loves to panic people and the sad part is some people make it so easy for them.
posted on July 5, 2003 11:27:23 PM new
lol...fear sells real good. Look at all the 'health' items! (Not gonna even tell ya how I paid 80.00 for some mountain grown Oregano one time. LOL>>>LOL>>>
I was never phased by Y2K, but I knew people who went into high mode of 'what if' tactics, also.
Yeah, would think Ebay and Paypal will get hit if that is the plan. Wonder if they have the server/man power to to defend against it?
posted on July 5, 2003 11:54:33 PM new
I made tons off the y2k, And I,,too was ready,,,,,click, click,,,,,just try to get my stuff........I heard the words y2k Two years before it was on everyones lips and I had the stuff and the closer it got,,,the HIGHER the price! shhhhhhh,,,,,,quiet,,,,,,I went to Mexico Jan. 1, 2000,,,,,never to be seen or heard of again,,,,,,,hahahahha,,,,,,Coleman stuff out the ying yang!!!!! hahahah.......My Cry,,,,NO lights, No water, No electricity, No heat, No food, No ice, Nothing! they bought EVERYTHING!!!!!! Three months later I was on EBAY!!!!! Selling the surplus!!!! hahahaha........one of the BEST I ever dreamed up.....Besides e bay......When it ends,,,I will jump on another wave and ride it out,,,,,,,,
posted on July 6, 2003 12:13:12 AM new
Jacks, yeah was going to mention that too.
Y2K gave software programmers alot of padding for the lean times! lol
posted on July 6, 2003 12:38:11 AM new
Remember Steve Wazniacs US festival? In the Glenn Hellen Park in California,,,,,a half Million people ate My donuts at that event! Two weekends of insanity!!!!!! that wave ended and onward and forward! I was 33 when I did that one...
Nothing last forever,,,,unless God made it and then that's not even true, extinct species,,,,Enron,,,,,ya gotta change with the times,,,,,,in the last year I have bought 3 ex Ryder trucks,17 footers,,,,,they are litterallyy rolling bill boards,,,,,,,Advertisers pay $6000.00 per truck for both sides for their name on them and then I rent them out at the same time. they are all over L.A. Do the Hustle,,,,,,roll with the times.....Be in front or get left behind,,,,,,,
posted on July 6, 2003 12:45:17 AM new
Jack - how much did you make off those during SB week? Those trucks were all over downtown San Diego and I know they didn't all come from here.
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posted on July 6, 2003 12:56:42 AM new
Thomas Edison is one of my favorite people,,,,shhhhhhhh,,,,,,,I wanna get rid of that PS icon on my auctions too. that's e bays and my secret.......
posted on July 6, 2003 07:03:47 AM new
That is the secret, find the wave and ride it for all it is worth, I have been opportunistic a few times on eBay, just have to keep your eyes and ears open...
posted on July 6, 2003 07:23:14 AM new
Getting back to the original subject, I agree that eBay will be a top target.
However, eBay's security is probably second to none in this area. I have never heard of eBay (or Paypal) being hacked. And I don't mean somebody giving away their password- that happens daily and is the fault of the user.
Hackers are most likely constantly trying to hack Paypal- think of the free money if they could actually do it! But it doesn't happen- their security people are on the ball.
I would look for less security-conscious sites to be defaced IF it happens at all. Newspaper, TV shows, political sites and that kind of thing. High-profile, but not necessarily requiring lots of security.
And I don't think it's strictly media hype. It showed up on Slashdot the other day, and that's a serious hack-geek type hangout. If the hackers didn't know about it before, they certainly do now.
I would hate to have my site hacked, but I do have backups and am reasonably certain that I don't have any important stuff on my web server.
Reasonable precautions will deter 99.99% of hacking attempts.
posted on July 6, 2003 07:43:08 AM new
Every article I've read sayss that only small mom & pop sites would be vulnerable. The whole thing is bogus as the prize was to be 500 megs of common disk space. Hackers, like oil rich arabs, will never be united in any cause.
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posted on July 6, 2003 09:06:43 AM new
lol yes, ACE and I read somewhere that if hackers wanted 500 megs of space they can take it anywhere they want to! But its a challange..something to do with them there hacker skills!
posted on July 6, 2003 09:54:22 AM new
Every article I've read sayss that only small mom & pop sites would be vulnerable.
Well, that's just wrong. It's true little guys don't always know how to properly secure a server, but there are plenty of "Big Targets" that would be more "presitigious" to hack.
What's the difference between mom & pop sites and big sites? The number of hits, and not much else. Technically there are only two varieties of webservers that cater to 95% of the entire internet (Apache & Microsoft IIS)
Size of the site doesn't matter, but security knowledge does. Sometimes "Security through Obscurity" helps out the little folks a lot.
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posted on July 6, 2003 05:53:10 PM new
You'll see the press backpedaling on this one saying better safe than sorry. Crying wolf gets you ignored in the future.
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posted on July 6, 2003 08:13:06 PM new
Put your ear to the underground, all you will hear from 'real' hackers is laughter at anyone who gave this topic a second thought.
Ever install one of those mainstream 'firewalls'?? Notice you get an "attempted security breach" like a dozen times a day? Scrypt kiddies constantly scan random IP addresses looking for unprotected systems to deface. With a T3 line a cracker could scan a small country in about a day. If Ebay could be hacked, it would have been done already.
In short: the whole thing is a farce to sell news. Ignore it, move on.
posted on July 6, 2003 09:35:10 PM new
Ebay the the big sites have a lot at stake and pay big bucks to protect their sites. The big sites will not pay a ransom to avert a Denial Of Service attact. Like a well guarded house the thieves move on to easier targets.
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