posted on July 11, 2003 03:05:05 PM new
I don't know what the dish is made of, it's brass color on the bottom and the lid is silver. The bottom is marked Forbes Silver and says Quadruple. My research tells me Quadruple means it has four layers of silver plating and that it was probably produced in the 1890's. Does this sound correct? I will assume it is the lid that has four layers of silver plating.
But what is this dish called? It is about 12" across including the handles. The lid comes off, and there is a brass colored rim around the bowl that also comes off. The top has 3d flowers in it.
Oh, and on the bottom... it looks like the brass color is wearing off and it is silver color underneath it.
posted on July 11, 2003 03:08:26 PM new
Looks like a soup tureen to me. I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination though, so I'll be hopping up and down yelling "I GOT ONE!!" if Kiara or someone else more knowlegable comes along and says that is indeed what it is
posted on July 11, 2003 04:45:31 PM new
Thanks Deana...
Your soup tureen was the right keywords to get me in the right direction. It looks like this is a casserole dish. Here is a similar, but much nicer, one that I found:
A little ways down on the page was this question and answer.
Q:My silver water pitcher is marked on the bottom with a circle surrounding an eagle's head. The words around the circle read "Forbes Silver Co. USA Quadruple." How old is my pitcher?
A:The Forbes Silver Co. was organized in 1894 by the Meriden Britannia Co., a large silver manufacturer in Meriden, Conn. Forbes manufactured silver-plated hollowware. The word "quadruple" indicates that your pitcher has four layers of silver plating. Meriden stopped using the word "quadruple" in its marks in 1896. Other U.S. silver-plate manufacturers dropped the word by 1912. Forbes and Meriden were among the several independent silver manufacturers that formed the International Silver Co. in 1898. It is likely that your pitcher was made in the mid-1890s.
posted on July 11, 2003 05:50:07 PM new
Deltim.....I think that other casserole dish in the link you provided is not nearly as nice or as valuable as your's. I also think the one in the link is way overpriced. Your's is worth $150-200 IMHO.
posted on July 11, 2003 06:04:24 PM new
Any suggestions on what keywords I should be sure to include in my listing? What would you call the bottom, brass color over silver? And is there a special name for the 3d flowers, or should I just say there are 3d textured flowers on the lid?
posted on July 11, 2003 07:07:06 PM new
floral high relief covered casserole
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.Just show a few nice clear pictures, including the bottom that needs replating. Sell as-is.
Don't say it needs replating, or that it's brass colored. If you show clear pictures the potential bidders can decide for themselves what it needs and what it looks like. Not every person would feel that it needs replating.
posted on July 11, 2003 08:57:21 PM new
Need more help here please...
I was showing the dish to DH and I noticed that one one side the bronze color is dripping. It's the kind of dripping you get when you paint or maybe spraypaint something. It doesn't feel like paint to me, but could this bottom be painted?
If so, should I try to clean it or leave it as-is?
Oh, and when I tap it I get kind of a hollow sound. The bottom is pretty light, does that mean it is not silverplated?
[ edited by deltim on Jul 11, 2003 08:58 PM ]
posted on July 11, 2003 09:30:25 PM new
Hi! I have an identical lid, but it covers a lovely silver dish and there's a silver rim-holder or whatever it's called. My hunch is that this is either a "marriage" of two separate things or that someone painted the bottom part.
posted on July 11, 2003 09:36:21 PM new
roadsmith - does your bottom have the same markings on it?
Is it possible for the bottom to be marked with the Quadruple (for the silverplate) and to have only the lid be silverplated? Or is the bottom also silverplate, since it is the piece that is marked?
posted on July 11, 2003 10:04:59 PM new
Deltim: Now that I actually look at my casserole dish, it's not quite the same design but it is 12" handle-to-handle with leaves & flowers in high relief and a slightly different handle/knob on top. There is no mark in the lid, but the dish itself is marked: Pat. June 14, 1904, B 2802, Victor Silver Co. Quadruple Plate, with a prancing horse logo.
My husband's grandmother was married in 1906 and I treasure this. I also have another one of hers, with her M monogram and a rather arts & crafts pattern (but it was a wedding gift too), and inside the bottom silver liner dish there is a Hall China dish. I suspect that was just added later on, but it's very nice.
[ edited by Roadsmith on Jul 11, 2003 10:07 PM ]
