posted on July 11, 2003 07:51:42 PM new
I have what I've determined to be a KPM45 pattern covered "something-or-other" and I believe it to be a soup tureen.
Checked with Replacements.com and they said it was "pretty rare" since they haven't had one in before -- and the last tureen to sell without the "underplate" or the ladle was for $350.00
Now, the dilemma. Does a soup tureen HAVE to have a hole in the lid for a ladle - for it to be called a tureen?
It does have handles. Could it be a covered vegetable bowl and not a tureen?
Here's what it looks like:
Size: 9.5 in. Long x 7 in. Wide x 6.5 in High
Any thoughts would be wonderfully appreciated.
Kind regards,
Wayne
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posted on July 11, 2003 08:44:00 PM new
It's either a covered casserole or veggie. A tureen would have a hole in the lid for the ladel and would probably be a little deeper. I'm not familiar with that maker though, and it's only my opinion which should not be taken as gospel. Maybe Sanmar will show up and shed a little light on it.
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posted on July 11, 2003 08:50:03 PM new
KPM is Bavaria, Germany I think. It's a very good quality porcelain. I'd probably call this a covered vegetable dish or casserole dish also.
I see that there is none available for sale at Replacements.
posted on July 12, 2003 03:59:45 AM new
For fear of a round of chastisement from Fluffy, I did, as I do regularly, the research on this one earlier and found that it was produced by the Carl Krister Porcelain Manufactory in Waldenburg, Germany around 1903.
The pattern is "Rose Swags" or KPM45.
I was just curious what everyone would call this
I mentioned in the original post that Replacements.com called it "rare" and didn't have any. But, thanks for the confirmation though.
Seriously, thanks for the opinions. I do value the experience here and appreciate your comments - one and all.
Kind regards,
Wayne
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posted on July 13, 2003 08:56:56 AM new
The same dish in Syracuse Stansbury, Haviland Blue Garland, and Franciscan Desert Rose, (patterns I buy for me and DIL's) would be called covered casserole.
We would be annoyed at a covered casserole trying to passed off as a tureen. Not saying you would do that, but others do and it is frustrating to think one found the elusive tureen, then checking the measurements only to find it is a common casserole.
The rule of thumb is that tureens have a nick in the lid for the ladle, and are deeper. The deepness varies on mfg.