Twelvepole
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posted on August 10, 2003 10:44:52 AM new
This is a bane to eBay... more so than any NPB could ever be...
You don't see news reports on Twelvepole not getting paid.
But let Twelvepole ripp off a few thousand from the bidders and whoo hoo look at the news... this problem should definately be addressed.
Maybe if a seller sells over $1000/week they need to post some sort of bond to eBay so that at least eBay can return the money stolen from the bidders.
Other ideas?
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tomwiii
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posted on August 10, 2003 11:03:37 AM new
bond THIS, bubba!
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stopwhining
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posted on August 10, 2003 11:23:24 AM new
ebay always said buyer beware ,it is just a venue and ebay does have insurance,
selling 1k a week is only 4.2k a month,thats just small charge.
it should go after the big seller,selling 10k a week or more.
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fenix03
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posted on August 10, 2003 11:29:57 AM new
Twelve - Can you imagine the hell that would result from attempting to get that bond back? What happens to mom and pop seller that usually do about $500 a week and accidentally happen upon the $10,000 beer can or carnival glass plate. Do they then set off the trigger and have to post a bond appropriate to that dollar amount when their average sale is rusually under $20? Since it seems to take ebay about 2 months to discover the scamsters do you then have to posta bond equal to 2 months of your sales? Could you afford to do that?
Rather than punishing all of the honest sellers and putting a lot out of business because they don't have $8000 in disposable income to post as a bond, how about if ebay just directed all of those additional administrative hours that a bond department would require into better detection systems to alert them to possible problem sellers?
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dacreson
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posted on August 10, 2003 04:01:19 PM new
Actually having sellers place a bond with lister is not new. It has been done before and presently is done right now on several specialized listing outfits.
Ebay is not set up that way, is more of a flea market so there is more risk. The feedback system etc was supposed to solve all that but didn't. We also have bidders who will risk huge amounts of money with an new low feedback or bad feedback,seller. Never understood that one.
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ahc3
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posted on August 10, 2003 04:57:19 PM new
It is buyer beware, there are lots of ways to deal with this. If it is a large enough transaction, escrow is a possibility. For smaller transaction, buyers are protected if they use a credit card or paypal. I don't see ebay getting this involved with a possible problem, nor should they...
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 10, 2003 05:20:05 PM new
An auction has always been a gamble. I think the reason that so many sellers put in the barest of auction descriptions is so they do not have to say the item was not as described in case of a refund request. Many sellers never mention the condition of an auction item for instance. This may work for the seller but over time more and more buyers become disenchanted with their ebay purchases and seek other avenues to purchase what they want to buy.
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greatlakes
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posted on August 10, 2003 05:35:52 PM new
stopwhining: "selling 1k a week is only 4.2k a month,thats just small charge."
Please send me your small change. [ ]
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Twelvepole
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posted on August 10, 2003 07:00:00 PM new
ahc3 I don't think anyone really uses escrow... have heard some real horror stories about it.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 10, 2003 07:18:15 PM new
If a buyer wants anything over $500 or $1,000 on ebay they'd be better off just emailing the seller about buying the item off site. The ebay 'protections' are a joke anyway.
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bigpeepa
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posted on August 10, 2003 07:38:23 PM new
If a buyer doesn't want to get stuck its simple just buy from the Pros, Red Star sellers with high Pos. feedback's and low Negs.
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Twelvepole
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posted on August 10, 2003 08:53:15 PM new
I think about that seller that earned high feedback then went missing... with money...
But most here are correct use a CC and hope for a chargeback...
Paypal has some protection, do they still offer money back guarantee?
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 10, 2003 09:06:09 PM new
I believe that the PP moneyback guarantee is only offered by PP to sellers with 98% feedback ratings. There must be a few sellers that do not want a 98% rating because then PP may offer their PP paying customers that guarantee.
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