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 wrightsracing
 
posted on August 13, 2003 06:15:20 PM new
Short story,Buyer x had a bid placed. I placed a bid on the same item last night, placed 2 more bids and lost the bid to buyer x.
Seller y has emailed me to say, [I]The high bidder is delinquent on another payment. Would you like the
widget for $67.00 + 5.60 shipping[/I].
The bidding closed at $65.07, my high bid was $64.07, why would I want to pay $67.00 for it when I bid $64.07 ??.
I did some checking ????
It seems that buyer x bids on 99.9% of every auction that seller y has put up in the last 2 weeks. buyer x has won a few and has lost for the most part.
Maybe bidder x is raising the price for seller y. It sure looks like it to me.
The same person, with 2 id's and 1 for buying and the other for selling with getting higher prices with the help of his buying ID.

What do you think ???
Does any one know where at ebay I can turn this guy in. This burns me.

Any thoughts.???
[ edited by wrightsracing on Aug 13, 2003 06:18 PM ]
 
 davebraun
 
posted on August 13, 2003 06:20:09 PM new
The pattern may be that of a schill bidder. Does the bidder win and pay any other dealers auctions? What is the feedback of the other bidder?

 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on August 13, 2003 06:31:21 PM new
Turn him in to investigations for shill bidding and let eBay do their job.


AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 wrightsracing
 
posted on August 13, 2003 06:37:13 PM new
buyer x has won some items from other sellers, the feedback for buyer x is excellent !!! That is what tipped me off. As I was checking buyer x has bought 65%- 75% from seller y.

335 positives. 209 are from unique users.

3 neutrals.

1 negatives. 1 are from unique users

Buyer x buyers the same items that seller y sells the most of.

I also did some more checking, has 4 bid retractions in the last week and a total of 34 in the last month.I know that is not a great deal. but I have done alot of shopping on ebay and I do not have 1 bid retraction. maybe that is me tho.

 
 TheFamilyBiz
 
posted on August 13, 2003 06:44:22 PM new
34 bid retractions sounds a tad high - YES! Is this buyer schizophrenic? Maybe multiple personalities and they're all using the same buyer ID? Who changes their mind that many times in a month here?


 
 neroter12
 
posted on August 13, 2003 06:49:35 PM new
Unless its an amazing coincidence, sure looks like shill bidding to me.

 
 paloma91
 
posted on August 14, 2003 01:08:01 AM new
What DO you do when you find a shill bidder?I have run into this a few times and didnt know what to do.
 
 alldings
 
posted on August 14, 2003 04:57:52 AM new
go here fill in the blanks let eBay do the rest.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/select-RS.html

 
 ahc3
 
posted on August 14, 2003 10:23:00 AM new
Besides shilling, the seller is guilty of trying to make a sale off ebay. Sounds like they are trying to avoid fees. Send their email to ebay as well.

 
 paloma91
 
posted on August 14, 2003 04:18:01 PM new
ahc3, that would be nice but there is really no place to send ebay an email. all of their correspondences are through their website. When you use that form, you only get a canned response. No one ever responds. well, for me anyway. Hopefully others have had better luck
 
 
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