paloma91
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posted on August 20, 2003 03:51:10 PM new
any thoughts on this tea pot and warmer. There are no marks anywhere to tell me when and who made it. Any ideas are very helpful
[ edited by paloma91 on Aug 20, 2003 03:51 PM ]
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CBlev65252
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posted on August 20, 2003 03:57:21 PM new
A picture of the base may help. Are there spur marks? Also important is if there are spur marks, is how they appear. Can you get a closer image of the decoration? Can't tell if it's hand painted or transfer decorated. One way to tell is to look through a loupe (see fluffy, I spelled it right) or a magnifying glass. If you see a lot of tiny dots, it's a transfer or if there is any misalignment of the decoration. I love it!!!! It's exactly what I collect. Let me know when you list it. PLEASE!
Cheryl
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paloma91
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posted on August 20, 2003 04:05:22 PM new
Cheryl, I will check right this minute. don't go away. Dont know if I can get a foto done that fast though. What should I look for on the bottom? What a spur marks?
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paloma91
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posted on August 20, 2003 04:09:41 PM new
I have a loope (or however you spell it) I took it outside and they look like brush strokes. It might be transfer ware. I dont know for sure.
I checked the bottom of the teapot and the warmer. both have little bumps, the kind you get when an old piece has been fired in a kiln. Is that what you meant by spur marks???
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CBlev65252
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posted on August 20, 2003 04:44:24 PM new
Those are spur marks. They are made in the kiln. The piece is most probably Chinese. I just talked to my brother and he said he'd look at the photos but can't until this weekend. The decoration looks very Chinese to me. A close up of the design would be helpful. May be late 19th or early 20th century. Believe it or not, that's not old in terms of Chinese porcelain. Most collectors look for 18th century or earlier. I guess that's understandable since that culture has been around forever. Does it appear to have been used at all? Also, a photo of the rim of the teapot would help. No rush on the photos. Is the white very white or does it have a tinge of blue? That's another sign of age. The newer pieces will be very white with a uniform blue coloring. In other words, the design will be very controlled. Unmarked pieces are difficult to date from photos. Also, does the blue look uniform or are there places where it appears the blue is darker?
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
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stopwhining
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posted on August 20, 2003 04:44:48 PM new
some of these asian teapots are now made in thailand and vietname
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CBlev65252
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posted on August 20, 2003 04:49:46 PM new
stopwhining is correct. You have to be careful these days because so many of these items are being reproduced in Vietnam and Thailand. However, unless they were not meant for export, there should be an indication of Made In. . . Is there evidence of a long lost sticker anywhere? Fakes are plentiful. China is producing a lot of those. Be careful, especially when buying these items on Ebay. You are no longer allowed to take antiquities out of China. I get a chuckle when I see the things that are on Ebay being sold from China that are supposedly antiquities. Unless they have a pal at customs, I don't think so.
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
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paloma91
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posted on August 20, 2003 10:51:05 PM new
I guess tomorrow morning I will be taking fotos first thing! Geez I learn so much for you all. This is wonderful! When I looked through the loupe at the design, there were spots that looked more blue than others. Like the blue has faded in spots The white doesnt look white-white, if you know what I mean. It looks kind of blue-white. There are splatches or spots of blue paint inside the "warmer" on the bottom as well as on the teapot itself. As if the painter made a few mistakes or something. Just a blue speck here and there. The inside of the teapot has some brown stuff in the spout. Looks like someone tried to clean it with comet or something. There is white powdery stuff in the spout as well. Ho humm. Well, I will get out the camera and post fotos in the morning.
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paloma91
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posted on August 22, 2003 07:11:03 PM new
Here are the fotos of the rim and the body of the teapot which shows part of the design. I hope this helps I.D. this poor thing.
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 22, 2003 08:39:10 PM new
Paloma, I think all of your items and your photos are great. I can't believe that some here have said the photos were not that good.
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paloma91
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posted on August 22, 2003 11:44:47 PM new
thanks auctionace, I think they were talking about the foto I tried to take of the mark. The resolution of the camera I have isnt great for marks. I have to use my scanner for that. One day when I am more money, I will go spend it on a camera. Right now, I am just trying to survive.
I think CBlev65252 said her brother was going to look at these fotos this weekend. I hope so. Maybe he can shed some light on this teapot
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CBlev65252
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posted on August 23, 2003 05:33:07 AM new
paloma91
What I need is a photo (or scan) of the bottom of the teapot and the warmer. Sorry. I'll see if I can get my brother over tonight. It looks 20thC, but you just never know. Without knowing what the bottom looks like it's hard to tell.
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
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paloma91
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posted on August 23, 2003 07:36:51 AM new
Thanks Cheryl. I'll do that this morning. Is it important that there are blue flakes inside the warmer under the glaze? There is. Do you need a foto of that too? I'll try using the scanner. Maybe that will take better fotos of the spurs
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paloma91
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posted on August 23, 2003 08:28:17 AM new
I tried with the scanner and digital camera. the little bumpie things just dont show up There are six of them on the bottom of the burner and a few on the bottom of the teapot
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