posted on August 22, 2003 08:44:27 AM new
I have read all the messages with pros and cons for unconfirmed addresses.
I do ship to them all the time in the states.
I also state I do not ship outside the USA, but as usual, I received this one email with a person asking if I would make an exception. He is from Paris and he sells as well. His feedback is excellent.
His total purchase is $69 but he is bidding on other items now as well.
He said he would pay with Bidpay, but when the auction ended he chose Paypal and has an unconfirmed address.
What would you do? Ship anyway or refund money and request Bidpay? I have never dealt with Bidpay and would be very hesitant to ship without receiving the payment in my hands first.
posted on August 22, 2003 08:50:27 AM new
Bidpay and western union wire transfers are the only methods of payment that I accept from some international bidders. Depends on the country they are located in etc. I NEVER accept paypal payments from anyone outside the of the USA. The way bidpay works is that the buyer pays for a money order in US dollars. A western union money order is then mailed to your address.
posted on August 22, 2003 09:02:04 AM new
I've shipped two items to France in the past month, both payed via paypal. No problems here..both great guys to work with. That's not to say, of course, that yours will be too. If it makes you nervous, why not contact the buyer and ask that he pay through bidpay instead?
posted on August 22, 2003 09:16:30 AM new
french bidders are cheap,bidpay costs money,thats why he is using paypal.
most intl bidder addr are unconfirmed,may be UK and Canada are two exceptions.
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posted on August 22, 2003 09:43:28 AM new
I always ship to unconfirmed in the US and I know someday I will have a problem, but so far, so good.
But, since I don't usually sell to international bidders I just wasn't sure about them.
Also, these are items I am closing out and selling in bulk. Most of my sales total under $20. I don't worry so much about them but this time it is $69 and that is a little different. Plus $15 shipping
[ edited by lindajean on Aug 22, 2003 10:39 AM ]
Lindajean, you might want to register the package. It will only be covered for $40.45 but at least it would be trackable. Cost to register is $7.50.
Lucy
Skinny cooks can't be trusted.
Editing to add, the French PO isn't the greatest in the world. I sent a package to Paris 6/3, it finally arrived 8/12.
[ edited by ohmslucy on Aug 22, 2003 12:00 PM ]
posted on August 22, 2003 01:20:32 PM new
if you are using global priority mail envelope,there is a serial number there and it is trackable by the post office.
certified mail is cheaper than registered mail,
but there is really no protection as paypal flatly said if you ship overseas no protection whether you can track it or not.
posted on August 22, 2003 02:58:16 PM new
You'd think Paypal would try to encourage international usage rather than discourage it. That only leaves BidPay for higher value international payments are are totally safe?
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posted on August 22, 2003 03:01:19 PM new
auctionace-
the reason why paypal does not offer seller protection for overseas transactions is that there is no way to verify billing address,except for some UK cards.
posted on August 22, 2003 09:54:28 PM new
I developed a new policy on international shipments that are paid with paypal. I will not deliver the merchandise until PayPals grace period has ended. Have been burned by Paypal on legite sales due to dishonest international buyers filing for non-delivered items with no recourse option available to the seller. So far, have not been burned by a USA unconfirmed, but when I do, that will be the policy for those payments as well. The last I knew, it was a one month period that you can file with PayPal. Shipments will be delivered after that for international until PayPal gets off of their lazy ass and gets those addresses confirmed and backs them up.
posted on August 23, 2003 06:16:35 AM new
I think you made the right decision Linda - I doubt that the buyer would want to "screw" up his 100% positive feedback for a $69 chargeback issue. I'd hold off on the F/B until he/she posts a positive for you just to make sure.
posted on August 23, 2003 07:21:06 AM new
the paypal confirmed address is the billing address of the cardholder,the place where he receives his monthly credit card statement.It could be his home address,a po box or his office or his mistress residence??
This address along with credit card number,line of credit,status etc (not the credit cardholder name) are stored on a data base managed by a company which collects them from most of the cc issuers in usa.
This data base is made available to paypal and merchants who swipe your card or enter cc data online seeking to verify if the credit card is valid,not stolen or expired or exceeding its credit limits.
But it does not have cc data of cards issued by foreign banks,altho recently Uk data is made availble,possibly thru an arrangement with a UK company .
if you have a merchant account and accepts american express card,you can call the amex office and verify the card(domestic or foreign) ,they will be able to tell you if the card is any good.
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posted on August 24, 2003 10:23:28 AM new
I only accept PayPal to an unconfirmed address if they add insurance. That way if they claim they never received it, they can take it up with the postoffice. Meredith
posted on August 24, 2003 01:15:33 PM new
insurance would not work if this is a stolen card,as the buyer would never co-operate with you to fle insurance.
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