tomwiii
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posted on August 27, 2003 08:17:21 AM new
These 2 dinner dishes look like TRANSFERWARE?? Is that the correct term?? They are UNMARKED & in beautiful shape -- are they something anybody collects??
WHICH CATEGORY??
The green divided covered dish is NOT vaseline -- I tested with a black light. The "GOLD" trim is mostly intact & it too is UNMARKED & in excellent condition. WHAT do I call this thingy & STYLE??
WHICH CATEGORY??
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jensmome
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posted on August 27, 2003 08:27:13 AM new
Ralphie,
The plates look like they are part hand painted and part transfer. Are the centers painted? They are very decorative so I'm sure someone collects them.
The green dish is a depression divided candy box. The finial looks Imperial but I'm not 100% sure on that.
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tomwiii
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posted on August 27, 2003 08:36:33 AM new
Thanks, oh Mommy-of-Jen!
The HARE plate looks hand painted in the center -- the blue one DOES NOT?? Is the blue one: "FLOW-BLUE??"
Danke! Gracias! Asante-sana! Hibachi!
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noh2
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posted on August 27, 2003 09:12:09 AM new
make sure you mention the rabbits ,rabbit lovers are always looking for interesting rabbit item.
burgerflipper,you go first!!!!!
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tomwiii
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posted on August 27, 2003 09:16:41 AM new
Bunny you should mention that: are these HARES or RABBITS ??
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[ edited by tomwiii on Aug 27, 2003 09:17 AM ]
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wgm
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posted on August 27, 2003 09:32:39 AM new
I don't know enough about these to be of help...just stopped in to say I love the rabbit plate!!! 
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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noh2
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posted on August 27, 2003 09:52:14 AM new
does not matter,just mention rabbits and they will come.
burgerflipper,you go first!!!!!
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cta
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posted on August 27, 2003 10:48:56 AM new
Looks to me like they are "Stick-Spatter or Spatterware" decorated which is a form of spongeware. They also look as though they could be flow blue in areas. These plates are exceptional and I'm sure they will do well is you mention stick spatter and flow blue. Take a look at the completed auction following.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2550506109&category=2203
Good luck!
[ edited by cta on Aug 27, 2003 11:46 AM ]
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classicrock000
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posted on August 27, 2003 10:53:43 AM new
RALPHIE-after getting a real CLOSE look at these I thought I was having a LSD flashback
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Dragonmom
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posted on August 27, 2003 01:10:03 PM new
I could care less about the green thingie, but I love both of those plates! i would put them both on my wall. The top one has a swedish or danish look to it, and I would guess the late sixties (by the shape and size of the red elements) or early seventies. Was there a dinnerware company caled Nordica, or is the furniture...
But the bunny plate is the big prize, I bet. I love the combination of the transfer rabbits and the handpainted elements. I would have said it's an amature piece except the painting is so confident.
well, there's my art eddication slipping out at ya!
"And All Shall be Well, and All Shall be Well, and All Manner of Things Shall be Well"
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cta
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posted on August 27, 2003 01:52:30 PM new
I really feel that these are older than what some have indicated. These are definately Stick Spatter pieces and should be listed as such. I really think you have a couple of gems here. I'll bet you got a great deal on them too. Why don't I ever find stuff like this? I'm always the one who arrives two seconds late just to see all the good stuff going just as I'm getting there.
Take a look at this other completed listing. Can you see any flow blue coming through the back of the plates you have?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2652152410
[ edited by cta on Aug 27, 2003 01:57 PM ]
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Roadsmith
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posted on August 27, 2003 02:07:03 PM new
The green glass looks like depression glass but may not be that old.
The plates are lovely! I had some similar ones, with no marks, and I called them Imari plates (or Imari-type plates, can't remember). I cross-listed them in either collectible plates or decorative plates (housewares) and also in Collectibles, Cultural, Asian. They did well.
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Dragonmom
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posted on August 27, 2003 02:16:17 PM new
yes, they might be real and old- I just saw someother plates that look a lot like yout red and blue one and they are listed as 19 century.
Those patterns made a comeback in the sixties, I know. They formed the basis for the whole psychedelic art style- especially in San Fransisco, where there was a lot of old wallpapers actually left on the old walls- Rick Griffen talked about dropping acid and watching the wallpaper patterns crawl around.Then he'd draw them when he came down.
"And All Shall be Well, and All Shall be Well, and All Manner of Things Shall be Well"
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Libra63
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posted on August 27, 2003 02:52:38 PM new
Ralphie sure has a nose for good merchandise. Could I borrow him for awhile.
I have seen the green thingie before but never with a cover. Don't know anything about it though.
Good luck with those plates and give Ralphie an extra treat....
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tomwiii
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posted on August 27, 2003 03:21:51 PM new
AND, a true DEMOCRAT! Everytime he goes outside, he pees on a BUSH!
Tis a very smart little boy!
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[ edited by tomwiii on Aug 27, 2003 03:22 PM ]
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tomwiii
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posted on August 27, 2003 03:24:54 PM new
BTW: a real BIG...
THANJ YOU to: cta & roadie & libra & everybody else who pitched in!
I almost listed these TOGETHER with a BIN of $15!
YIKES!!!!
No wonder Ralphie was moaning & hollering -- I thought it was the Knockwurst & breweski he had for lunch!
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tomwiii
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posted on August 27, 2003 07:21:11 PM new
Yowse guys is the bestest!
The bunny plate has a 20 dollar bid already & both are getting loads of look-sees!
MUCHAS GRADIAS!
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cta
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posted on August 27, 2003 08:18:41 PM new
Ralphie, I'm so glad you took my advice on the plates. The descriptions and photos look great and you can really see the flow blue coming through on the backside of the first one. Great job and you should do VERY well with them. Stick spatter is key...you'll have all kinds of collectors looking. The kind that is willing to spend some bucks. Good Luck!
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tomwiii
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posted on August 28, 2003 05:25:19 AM new
Hold the fort, kiddies! I just got this email thru the ask seller a question:
"...i just thought i would tell you an antique dealer told me those plates are worth over five hundred dollars those marks you are talking about are tripod marks or kiln marks which dates the plate toearly 1800s.not sure if you knew that.thank you ."
Is this TRUE? I wondered why those "pocks" were in a triangle distribution & went THROUGH the plate!
Any comments??
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on August 28, 2003 06:00:04 AM new
If that's true -- Way To Go Ralphie!!!
cta,
What is stick spatter? That's a term I hadn't heard before.
Wayne
Trying to Make a Difference - One Satisfied Customer at a Time....
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CBlev65252
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posted on August 28, 2003 06:23:26 AM new
tomwiii
I responded to your What Do I Do Now post and I'll post here in case you read this first. What you have look to me to be Chinese plates. The rabbit is an important Chinese symbol. They do not look American or European to me. Post them on www.gotheborg.com. Someone there should be able to help you. The blue looks very right to be early 19th C. I'm not saying they are Chinese, just that they could be. In the meantime, end the auctions until you know more. You may be able to get more from a private sale than on Ebay, though.
Cheryl
Power to the people. Power to the people, right on. - John Lennon
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kiara
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posted on August 28, 2003 07:56:46 AM new
Hazel-Atlas manufactured a green depression glass divided dish like this one but I don't see one with a top.
My book shows some covered ones by Imperial but not this same pattern. They are referred to as a covered nut dish, three partitioned. But I think more people know them as candy dishes.
Just a note, in your auction you have it as "filial" and it should be "finial".
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deltim
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posted on August 28, 2003 08:13:47 AM new
Could someone tell me what "stick spatter" is? I tried searching on yahoo and found lots of items, but couldn't find a definition.
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on August 28, 2003 08:19:22 AM new
I went out to Google, Tom, and hit upon something that might interest you - take a look at the prices stick spatter fetches:
http://www.pookandpook.com/catalog/26apr/1.html
The article linked to your other post is also a good source of spatterware knowledge.
Since I live in PA and that's where we acquire our items for auction, I'll be keeping an eye out for this stuff... My wife took a look at some of it and said she was confident we hadn't come across it yet, because we would have made fun of some of this stuff that people are paying thousands for....
Wayne
Trying to Make a Difference - One Satisfied Customer at a Time....
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cta
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posted on August 28, 2003 08:28:56 PM new
From what little I know about this type of spatterware, it is based on the pattern style of 'Staffordshire Sponge Printing' which dates back to the 17th century and often called 'Stick Spatter' in the United States. If you look at most patterns, that's just what it looks like - sponge printing. I love the stuff!
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