posted on August 29, 2003 02:49:33 PM new
OK, first off, it is entirely my fault. I should have read this persons feedback before bidding. But, it looked like a great deal, it was about to close and I bid $275 for an item.
Then, it closed and I decided to check the feedback. BOY! Did I mess up. If she had not had over 2,400 good feedbacks I wouldn't have even looked. But, you better look closer before you bid. She has 74 negs.
The positives are all for little $1.99 items. The negs are for the type item I purchased. Several for misrepresentation, not sending items scanned, and not even shipping at all Her answer, "I shipped, it must have gotten lost, s*** happens". To all of the ones who say they didn't receive it. Called those saying item wasn't as descriped a liar.
So, do I go ahead and send her $300 for something I am pretty sure will be junk? Or do I take the strike against me and say no? HELP! In 5 years on Ebay I have never not paid for an item I won.
posted on August 29, 2003 03:03:24 PM new
Can you pay through paypal with a credit card and maybe pay for paypal's insurance? I thought their insurance covered misrepresented items.
posted on August 29, 2003 03:04:03 PM new
Yes, you screwed up. Maybe email and ask but with that record I would not be holding my breath waiting for an answer.
Only you know what you can live with, so you will have to decide. Given a choice between a neg and $275.00 I would rather have my money.
If you feel this uncomfortable about this deal then back out.
posted on August 29, 2003 03:15:55 PM new
Unfortunately, she doesn't accept paypal. That should have been my first warning sign
I do feel very bad about it and don't see much chance of getting what I bid for if anything at all. I can't believe she is still selling but I guess fools like me keep her in business.
I'm not worried about the neg but I hate the NPB notice I would definitely rather have a neg than lose $300.
Edited to add:
I did email her and ask for some reassurance given her track record and explained I just didn't check first because of all the positives. Everyone else says she never answers emails, and she hasn't answered mine yet.
It's her replies to the items not received that bother me most. To just say "s*** happens doesn't quiet cut it on a $300 purchase.
posted on August 29, 2003 03:59:43 PM new
I've always paid for my bids too, but in this case I might not pay either. How about offering to pay through escrow? Might be worth it on a $300 item. I would ask her to explain her feedback as well, that is far too many negatives.
posted on August 29, 2003 04:09:44 PM new
ahc3 said the magic word,,,Escrow....Now let us ALL know what comes of that angle. Bet the box for escrow was NOT checked and it's too late. You will be throwing $300.00 to the wind. Feed back is a joke as proven by the seller. Means nothing, purely entertainment. $300.00 MEANS something.
posted on August 29, 2003 04:19:09 PM new
Don't contact the seller anymore,maybe you will get lucky and it just slithers away. Are you a Power seller? She says sh** happens? Well,,,,,UPS her a bag it! whoaaaaaa $300.00......that's gonna be ALOT of,,,,,,,,,,,,hahahahaha......Feed back , if it happens,,,,,,Sh** delivered.
posted on August 29, 2003 04:52:25 PM new
Check her contact info... maybe if you are lucky she will have put a fake # or something... then you can turn her in for bad contact info and you are not required to complete the transaction.
I got taken this past fall on a $450 item. It was not as represented and wasn't worth nearly what I paid. But there was nothing I could do about it...paypal and ebay don't care if the product is not as described. I ended up reselling it for $150. I would never again send that much unless I felt extremely confident in the seller.
posted on August 29, 2003 07:34:42 PM new
I wouldn't pay either. The NPB, if she even files, with scroll off in 18 months anyway. Chalk it up to expierence.
The Paypal thing would have helped anyway as they do not get involved in quality issues.
-------------- sig file ----------- He who angers you controls you
posted on August 29, 2003 10:09:35 PM new
I wouldn't pay either. For 300.00 I'd gladly be a deadbeat on this one.
So you made a mistake, it happens & the seller is not answering your email. That's a good enough reason to back out.
posted on August 29, 2003 10:15:03 PM new
COD is no good & it's expensive for you. You cannot open the package until after you pay the postman & then it's too late.
posted on August 29, 2003 10:57:04 PM new
Tell her you demand escrow. If she refuses, open up 35 throw away buying accounts and present your demand a second time
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
posted on August 30, 2003 12:16:01 AM new
Still no answer to my email asking her to explain her feedback.
Guess I will have to chalk it up to experience. I certainly won't do that again so the NPB won't really hurt me. At least not as much as losing $300 would!
Boy, I bet I check out everyone from now on before I bid. I forget even longterm sellers with large feedbacks can and do go bad.
I did buy it under my main seller ID so I will have to block her so she can't mess with my listings. Guess you learn by your mistakes and since I did check before sending the dollars at least I didn't lose much except a little ding in my conscience.
posted on August 30, 2003 12:25:26 AM new
I did get an email from her. She stated people were trying to take advantage of her and she just wasn't going to let them.
At least she answered me. But 74 is still an awfully high number.
And, that is 1 out of 24 for the past month and 5 out of 115 for the past 6 months. Not 1 out of a thousand like some larger sellers. All the positives are for much smaller items. This was a large lot and everytime she sells one of them she gets a neg. Often for non-delivery and when she does deliver for items not as described and not same as scans.
posted on August 30, 2003 09:24:22 AM new
I would take the neg- I could not afford to throw away 300 on a chance. When she negs you, state in your return FB-"Seller has poor fb for HIGH TICKET items I won't risk losing my money" or something like that.
"And All Shall be Well, and All Shall be Well, and All Manner of Things Shall be Well"
posted on August 31, 2003 09:18:57 AM new
How about responding as, "I screwed up by bidding on this mess. Didn't pay, thank God."
Also, What about C.O.D. ups
That won't protect your from squat. You don't have the luxury of opening the package to inspect it before paying for it. It is a protection thing for the shipping company.
posted on August 31, 2003 09:38:16 AM new
I agree with everyone else..DONT PAY! I have been burned twice as I discussed in earlier threads..once from none delivery and the other time from delivery of garbage I only WISH i would have/could have backed out of the deals!
PayPal - even paid with credit card - was no help in both of my cases....once because the seller did deliver (albeit the stuff was garbage and not at all as represented) and the other time because the seller had no funds. Ebay insurance is a JOKE!!
It's too bad one has to wade through all of the sellers positives to find the negatives when having to make a snap decision "bid or not bid"..sometimes there just isn't time to evaluate the feedback ratios properly. In your case, I would say the SELLER wasn't as represented by feedback ratios.
posted on August 31, 2003 11:09:16 AM new
I have decided not to pay. We'll see what happens. She said it was OK with her because she had 100,000 postcards to sell and she would just relist.
We'll see if she really means it. I considered offering to pay the Ebay fees but I really don't want to make her think twice about the whole thing.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. It was definitely a lesson learned that won't be repeated. I paid $500 for 1500 postcards earlier this month. Still haven't received them. I hope mail is just slow. Or, I'm afraid they are caught up in the media mail crackdown at the post office. I asked the buyer for my insurance tracking number but no reply yet so I may have already lost out on that one as well.
What is happening on Ebay? The first few lots of cards I bought in January went for only $100 and were great and they shipped them the day after I paid for them.
[ edited by lindajean on Aug 31, 2003 12:12 PM ]
posted on August 31, 2003 09:14:47 PM new
Hi Neglus, fellow postcard seller,
Hammertap is a relitively inexpensive utility that allows you to search only the negative feedback. Check it out at hammertap.com
Don
posted on September 1, 2003 08:54:08 AM new
There is acceptable 'deadbeating'. The $300 price tag is too steep to merely eat unless you're Bill Gates. What would you do in the circumstances 12pole? And don't say I would research the feedback first because that is not the circumstance.
-------------- sig file ----------- He who angers you controls you
posted on September 1, 2003 09:16:51 AM new
I would of paid and not been a deadbeat...
Only ASSumptions have been made regarding this seller... no one knows for certain they would of been out $300... it is a gamble each and every time you win an auction... can't afford it... don't bid.
yeah it is acceptable to whom? Deadbeat is a deadbeat....
Don't give that BS it is an acceptable deadbeat... in each persons mind who doesn't pay they justify it to themselves...
I do find it amusing... I have saved this thread... each time from now on when I see someone b*tching about a deadbeat... I will be more than happy to post this link.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
[ edited by Twelvepole on Sep 1, 2003 09:18 AM ]
posted on September 1, 2003 09:34:10 AM new
lindajean said: OK, first off, it is entirely my fault.
She admitted up front responsibility for what she did.
How about all the threads of yesteryear where a certain poster named twelvepole pizzed and moaned constantly about doing chargebacks and store returns, etc. because he didn't have a clue when he purchased items? DUH!
posted on September 1, 2003 09:41:43 AM new
Bring 'em up or shut up...
I think you will see that I PAID and then did the charge back, I have ALWAYS given the seller a chance and not ONCE been a deadbeat...
No where have I said she didn't have the RIGHT to deadbeat.. it is just funny that with all the deadbeat threads, it is rationalized out to make this acceptable... good for one, good for most... of course there will be those just bidding to pizz off the seller...
So Kiara you know for a fact this seller wouldn't follow through? You do know what fact means don't you?
posted on September 1, 2003 10:05:17 AM new
Twelve - I think the difference between this situation and the average deadbeat is that a true deadbeat is someone you never hear from and never pays. In this instance, LInda contacted the seller regarding her concerns and the seller agreed to let her off the hook. That's cancelation by mutual consent, not a deadbeat.
~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~
Men Are Like Grapes. If You Stomp on Them and Keep Them in the Dark Long Enough, They Might Turn Into Something That You Would Take to Dinner
[ edited by Fenix03 on Sep 1, 2003 10:06 AM ]
Her answer, "I shipped, it must have gotten lost, s*** happens". To all of the ones who say they didn't receive it. Called those saying item wasn't as descriped a liar.
