BEAR1949
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posted on September 7, 2003 03:59:33 PM new
Not a dutch auction but it is.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2554751431&category=11904
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
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Twelvepole
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posted on September 7, 2003 04:13:47 PM new
Wonder how he could explain that to eBay?
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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rarriffle
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posted on September 7, 2003 04:20:15 PM new
by saying 5 available in the ebay specifics portion, doesn't that make it a dutch auction?
or does he have oodles and every bidder has to take 5?
oh lord, I'm confused again.
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Libra63
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posted on September 7, 2003 04:30:03 PM new
I bid on a item that had 50 but it was a buy it now and there must be something that alerts the computer that you are buying one and it subtracts that one. Then the auction continues and your bid in a winning bid.
I guess if nobody reports them it will stay. If someone doesn't read the description before they bid they are going to be surprised when he charges them for 5 of them. It onlyhas 19 hours to go so it probably won't get any bids. At least I hope not.
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Twelvepole
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posted on September 7, 2003 04:39:07 PM new
His auction is not clear, I am guess he has at least 25, that would be 5x5 but who knows... it is fee avoidance...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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CBlev65252
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posted on September 7, 2003 04:55:21 PM new
EDITED TO ADD: THANKS TWELVE! I get it now.
Seems like fee avoidance to me, too. Although, it took me longer to figure it out because his description is not very good at all. It's confusing to those of us in need of sleep. 
Cheryl
The next time you think you're so perfect, try walking on water.
[ edited by CBlev65252 on Sep 7, 2003 04:59 PM ]
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Twelvepole
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posted on September 7, 2003 04:58:27 PM new
YOU ARE BIDDING ON 1 NEW BULLARD CC20 SERIES AIRLINE RESPIRATOR HOOD BUT YOU MUST TAKE A TOTAL OF 5 OR MORE
Cheryl, for every "1" you take you actually have to take 5... So if you filled in a quantity of 5 you actually have to pay and take 25... not just the 5 you wanted.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 7, 2003 05:08:57 PM new
I guess if nobody reports them it will stay.
I now longer think ebay operates that way. Even if the auction is turned in by someone there is only a small chance ebay will pull it. Similar to the IRS, only a small percentage of the cheaters get audited and caught. Also it's super complicated to turn in violators these days and very few will take the time and effort to do it.
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
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iceicepenguin
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posted on September 7, 2003 06:28:29 PM new
Hey AuctionAce, maybe we should tell Ebay he is selling Hearing Aid Hoods.
They'd pull it then for sure!
LOL
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stonecold613
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posted on September 7, 2003 06:51:21 PM new
No question it is fee avoidance. In fact it is quite clear in the auction as well. There example is IF your winning bid is $5, then you must buy 5 at $5 each for a total of $25.
It can be translated to if your winning bid is $25. Then you need to buy 5 at $25 for a total of $125.00
I am sure it is one of many out there.
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sanmar
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posted on September 7, 2003 08:52:39 PM new
This set up like a Dutch Auction on the front end, but he is trying hoodwink eBay by selling 5 on the bid of one. I should be reported. I would if I know where to go to do it.
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paloma91
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posted on September 7, 2003 09:24:40 PM new
the seller can't spell either
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 7, 2003 10:27:26 PM new
The 'easy' infractions get found by ebay software. 'Easy' would be hearing aids or backup disks or rifles and such. The 'tough' infractions like this clever rascal seller can not be found by ebay's software and must be caught by ebayers reporting the infraction. The problem is that there are so many infractions being reported that ebay apparently only audits and reads or acts on a few of the reports. In the old days on ebay almost every reported infraction was followed up on by ebay. Maybe ebay is saving money by only acting on a small precentage of reported violations ( less manpower and listing refunds )
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
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sparkz
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posted on September 7, 2003 10:50:41 PM new
It's true, Ebay probably can only follow up on a certain percentage of reported infractions. However, if they have any system of priorities for investigation, my guess would be that fee evasion would be very close to the top of the list. I don't think they would classify fee avoidance as an infraction, or even as a misdemeanor. Most likely a felony that calls for a firing squad.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 7, 2003 11:52:19 PM new
Fee avoidance is one of the murky ebay rules. We see it with the outrageous s/h terms that are stll acceptable for ebay. Of all the infractions I might wager that fee avoidence gets the most reports and also reports that end up being within ebay guidelines.
I think the creation of the police bots on ebay is to free up manpower resources for the other investigations. The spoof emails turned into ebay must use a lot of their manpower resources to sort out and email back in a timely fashion.
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
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