horsey88
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posted on October 24, 2003 12:38:41 PM new
My bet is on the Wire Transfer guy. I love betting odds/on favorites.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2666245889&category=31387
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2666485138&category=31387
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toasted36
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posted on October 24, 2003 12:47:06 PM new
omg....you'd think ebay would do something about this fast ! Talk about messing up someones sale...no way anyone would bid now.I know I wouldn't !
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lindajean
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posted on October 24, 2003 12:54:50 PM new
Did you see the added comment about the German seller stealing the words and pictures. First seller said he reported it to Ebay but it only has 16 hours left to run.
Wonder how long they are going to leave it?
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neroter12
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posted on October 24, 2003 01:09:53 PM new
Yikes!!
Even if I had that money to lay out, I dont think I'd buy something of that nature from EBAY unless it was a offered by very prominent auctioneer or something.
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 24, 2003 01:18:54 PM new
The German seller has the high feedback and the other guy has only a few feedbacks from buying clothes. No one in their right mind would buy a very high end Rolex on ebay.
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wgm
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posted on October 24, 2003 01:25:36 PM new
strange auctions - what's really bizarre is that the guy selling the watch in the US has bid several times on the watch from Germany..
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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neglus
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posted on October 24, 2003 01:55:17 PM new
The German guy IS stealing auctions! Here is another one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2666435275&category=15177
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2666483821&category=15177
and another:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2665635322&category=15182
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15182&item=2666483609
WHY DOESNT EBAY STOP IT!??
[ edited by neglus on Oct 24, 2003 01:58 PM ]
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NearTheSea
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posted on October 24, 2003 01:56:42 PM new
ok I'm confused. Which seller has the REAL Rolex here? I would say the guy with no bids, but I don't have a clue now.
And no, never would buy something like that off ebay!
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lindajean
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posted on October 24, 2003 01:58:52 PM new
Maybe the German guy knows a jeweler who can make a knockoff? Wouldn't think so that quickly though.
That is very very strange.
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horsey88
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:02:12 PM new
German sale...Will ship to United States only.
You must be preapproved give me your CC details.
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NearTheSea
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:03:37 PM new
I like this
papal or money in a letter
yeah right buddy, do you want that in $20's or $50's?
is there some kind of German privacy law that ebay CAN'T do anything?
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horsey88
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:06:35 PM new
Yep wire transfer is preferred and all details are provided.
"WHY DOESNT EBAY STOP IT!??"
Ebay actually gains when folks get ripped off,plus the more folks get ripped off the better for Paypal.
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NearTheSea
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:09:52 PM new
looking at one auction, the bidders look legit also. Are there that many with money to blow like that on ebay?
Funny how the rest of his auctions are all in German, and his ME page, but these others.. perfect English.
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neroter12
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:12:54 PM new
Thats awful they let this go on. bet it will be down by tomorrow.
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neglus
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:16:44 PM new
The German guys auctions will done tomorrow! EBay had better end them now!
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horsey88
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:27:40 PM new
The 6 Carat Diamond ring states.
"shipping only usa (as insecured parcel!):"
INSECURED Parcel ...Hehehe
And of course....The shipping is free in this auctions!
[ edited by horsey88 on Oct 24, 2003 02:29 PM ]
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wgm
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:32:42 PM new
am I the only one who thinks it strange that the US seller has bid on the German seller's auction?
Hopefully the seller(s) of the other items are aware of what is going on and raising h!ll too!
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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horsey88
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:33:48 PM new
Wgm..What's strange ??....He is trying to protect naive bidders.
But my guess is all the underbidders will fall for a great off-ebay deal.
[ edited by horsey88 on Oct 24, 2003 02:37 PM ]
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wgm
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:39:08 PM new
I didn't look at it that way, horsey. I am not very well-versed in all the seasoned tactics (not being sarcastic, being honest)...so as a novice, I saw it as a bit suspicious. Must be me 
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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NearTheSea
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posted on October 24, 2003 02:56:12 PM new
Ok, is any 'up' on those German privacy laws, and is that why these auctions haven't been shut down yet???
I just might use my other ebay ID, just to 'ask the seller a question'....
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neroter12
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posted on October 24, 2003 03:29:25 PM new
wgm, you wonder if there is some cohoots going on? Me too.
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wgm
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posted on October 24, 2003 03:34:31 PM new
neroter - glad I'm not the only one
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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neglus
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posted on October 24, 2003 03:44:46 PM new
I wonder if the german guy has had some id theft? His feedback is for wooden figures - NOT jewelry! Very strange! Looks like he had a nice business going with the wood doesnt seem to be a likely character to pull something like this!
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wgm
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posted on October 24, 2003 03:47:17 PM new
and he has an eBay store and an "about me" page - not that that means a heck of a lot, but he's been working on building a reputation - puzzling it is!
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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neglus
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posted on October 24, 2003 03:52:40 PM new
He gives DIRECTIONS TO HIS HOUSE in his "about me" page and he has a website dedicated to his wooden figures..I don't know if he is the guy selling the chrome thingies but I'll bet he is NOT the guy selling the jewelry!
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wgm
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posted on October 24, 2003 03:55:05 PM new
The US seller's bid was $15,100.00 on the German auction before he was outbid - and that was on October 22, which was the first day the German auction started and one day after the US auction started...hmmmmmm
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 24, 2003 03:59:32 PM new
I was thinking possible ID highjacking of the German ebay seller too. The guy with low feedback has nothing to lose and to accuse the other guy is always a good move.
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wgm
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posted on October 24, 2003 04:00:16 PM new
and another thing to think about...
If I were selling a watch like that, it would seem reasonable to check out the competition. I can't even begin to imagine how I would react if I saw my auction copied by another seller with a derogatory paragraph about me!
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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sparkz
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posted on October 24, 2003 04:08:58 PM new
Since one guy in Germany and one guy in Arkansas both claim to have bought it at the same time and both are using identical descriptions, it's obvious one, or both of these auctions is a fraud. With this much money involved, Ebay should do the only appropriate thing and end BOTH auctions NOW. They can investigate and boot the scam artist and let the legit seller relist later. Maybe even give him a free featured listing to compensate him for the inconvenience. Or, they can save themselves the trouble of investigating and let them both run and see which bidder gets screwed. Then they'll know for sure which one was a scam.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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neglus
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posted on October 24, 2003 04:13:45 PM new
Huh? The German seller started his auction 2 days after the American watch seller..now I don't know if the American seller is on the up-and-up but clearly the GERMAN copied the American not vice versa. I would guess the American bid in the German auction to get contact information and maybe because he was mad as hell..I doubt that they are in cahoots because of the other two copied auctions. THe other two sellers seem to be totally legit with ample feedback...I think the little German woodworker had his id stolen and hasn't checked eBay in awhile because he has no items listed. Isn't this why all the scum bags try so hard to get our eBay passwords??
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