posted on November 5, 2003 06:20:38 PM new
They way I look at it is, a sale is a sale. I could care less if they use Paypal, send a money order or write a check. I don't know about anyone else, but I cannot afford to turn away a sale.
posted on November 5, 2003 06:21:09 PM new
So long as they actually SEND a money order, I'd have no problem with it. Unfortunately, half of those who are "going to send" a money order never do.
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posted on November 5, 2003 06:39:42 PM new"under my gentle guidance"
ROFL!!
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posted on November 5, 2003 06:42:51 PM new
...i request postal m/orders; but never had a bad m/order of any kind...they almost as "pure" as money....you know they dont leave a trail...just get post office to cash...or deposit if desired. and to replaymedia: ...i couldnt stand half of the people who send me moneyorders be lying to me either...are you referring to half your moneyorder promises, or you quoting some statistic we should know about.
posted on November 5, 2003 06:46:06 PM new
I do take money orders, IF, they ask before bidding.
That too is stated in the auction.
When someone dictates how they are going to pay, excuse me?
This person told me he didn't use paypal.
SO my question to him was, "then why did you bid?"
I don't want to do business with people like that.
I'll keep the item first!
I have been waiting for a MO for over a week.
I let one person have the option to send a MO...power seller too, no confirmed PP address.
Makes me wonder.
I have yet to get it.
Ebay states that the buyer is to follow the listing terms, not the other way around.
I don't need the money that badly.
They just get spoiled and pampered by those sellers that allow such behavior to continue.
posted on November 5, 2003 06:55:20 PM new
livininjeans
I don't pamper my bidders. I state that I take money orders although I also state I prefer Paypal. 95% or more of my bidders use Paypal. I'd be aggitated as well if I didn't take them and they wanted to send one anyway. I used to accept Paypal only, but changed it when things started to slow down. Unlike fluffy, I don't have a gazillion sales going at one time so one sale means a lot to me. If I wasn't a partner in another company I'd quit and do Ebay full time. If I can ever find someone dumb enough to take my part of the business, I would. (It's a non-profit that is really, really non-profit)
I've only had one that I think may turn into a royal pain. She bid on my item for someone else and emailed me to let me know that once she gets in contact with her friend, she'll have her friend send me a money order. I clearly state that payment must be in my hands within 10 days, no exception. If I don't have it by then I will relist and file a NPBA.
Edited to add: What about those bidders who do not have a credit card and are uncomfortable with giving out their banking information? Or those who have had their bank accounts hacked into because they have? I've had it happen to me. Someone managed to take $350 out of my checking account for purses (bought online), of all things.
posted on November 5, 2003 07:08:14 PM new
In my auctions I say I the preferred method of payment is PayPal but I will accept all other forms. The reason I like PayPal is because I can get the merchandise out of the house before I lose it, if you know what I mean. I have NO problems with checks, money orders or cash so what ever they want to pay with is fine with me. I am not going to be choosy.
There are probably sellers on this board who make many more dollars than I do and can be choosy but for now it is anyway that they can pay.
posted on November 6, 2003 01:59:16 AM new
I have had several bidders email me before bidding and tell me they are uncomfortable using PP.
I tell them they can send a MO.
It's called courtesy - to ask first.
But for someone to deliberately bid, THEN write me to say they don't use PP, I am sending a MO?
The first person that tried that today, ended up using PP soon after.
The second person probably won't pay.
That is when you file an unwelcomed bidder report.
I am not up to the challenge of a power struggle.
You don't go into a store and dictate YOUR payment terms.
Buyers do have more protection when they use online payment, in my opinion.
If you send a MO, you don't have much recourse, if the item never shows up.
Who do you complain to for a refund?
Checks? NEVER!
You go to AMAZON.com, LL BEAN, etc., you pay online. Customers that are truly uncomfortable with online payments, should stick to catalog shopping.
posted on November 6, 2003 02:40:17 AM new
Livinjeans, you're insulted because somebody wants to pay cash for the product instead of using paypal?? Granted, it may take longer to receive money and ship item, but it's still a done sale.
I have to say I'm with Cheryl on this one! Know people who are totally afraid of using ANY online transactions, and there's no way to convince them otherwise! I Would rather a MO anyway - no PP fees on the trans!
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posted on November 6, 2003 03:19:18 AM new
What about the ones who send CASH....plain, every day American greenbacks? Do they think Everyone one of us is that honest? I had a guy in Italy email me for most of a week, asking if I would accept euros. No Nicki, I do not accept euros. What do you think I would do with them in the middle of rural PA? So he carefully wraps cash in the Italian equivlant of Sunday paper advertising section and mailed that. Ruthie
posted on November 6, 2003 05:02:37 AM new
It's your listing and you write the terms..buyer must oblige. Perhaps you can cancel by mutual consent and get your fees back without harming the non-reading buyer??
I can't blame you for only wanting PayPal - the fee is nearly offset by the hassle of opening all the check/mo envelopes, trying to identify WTF the buyers are paying for, trying to find a mailing address somewhere on the envelope..
but face it..there are still people out there who are terrified of putting any personal financial information on the Internet and they will not/cannot use PayPal. You are really limiting your market by requiring PP IMHO.
posted on November 6, 2003 05:51:44 AM new
Thank you for only accepting PP. I'm sure it has driven many bidders my way. I hope you have a 250 word TOS statement that scares people away too.
posted on November 6, 2003 06:06:35 AM new
I've talked about this before. I did PayPal-only on a bunch of auctions. The reason was that I was driving cross-country, expected the trip to take about a week, and figured I could ship paid-for stuff each day. The only way that could work was to accept only online payments.
Some winners not only would not use PayPal, they refused to believe that they could not send a money order like they did with all other eBay sellers. Some people truly do not grasp that eBay consists of a huge number of individual sellers, each having their own terms and rules. Part of this misconception has to do with the way eBay markets itself.
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posted on November 6, 2003 06:50:29 AM new
I believe Liveinjeans is technically correct. They are her terms, so the bidder should have honored them.
But, I don't understand the point of making someone e-mail first to ask if they can send a money order. If you are going to say yes if they ask, why not just make it an option all the time? Or if you dislike money orders that much why not just not prohibit them completely?
posted on November 6, 2003 07:01:33 AM new
To answer your question, there are those bidders who don't understand what a confirmed address is on Paypal.
When they go to pay, the aren't confirmed.
Therefore, they write me to tell me that.
Rather than lose the sale and the customer lose out, I offer the MO option.
Those are understandable circumstances.
I don't offer MO as my preferred payment because I prefer PP.
However, if someone really wants an item, they will inquire.
Those bidders I welcomed.
It's those that think, "Well, I just bid anyway, and then tell the seller that I don't use PP."
No matter what, if someone is on the up and up, they will follow the terms, no matter how long they are.
I could care less what a seller puts in his/her terms about when payment is due and so forth.
I look for PP auctions and check the feedback.
Then I bid and pay immediately.
Those that are offended by terms, are bidders that most of us don't want to deal with anyway.
Excuse me, so sorry my grammar is not up to your high standards.
I was not disputing the face that liveinjeans has every right to accept payment by Paypal only or to be agitated when bidders don't read her TOS. We've all been there. As fluffy stated, there are many bidders who don't understand that Ebay is merely a venue for many different sellers. It certainly is not explained in Ebay's television commercials, which are lame at best. I was merely stating that not all of us can afford that luxury. It's her Ebay business to conduct how she sees fit.
So if someone sends you postage stamps, you'd take them?
I might on some items. I have to go the the post office to buy them anyway. The last time I checked the post office wasn't mailing things without them. Might save me a trip or two. Besides, I can always sell them to my other business. We're always running out.
posted on November 6, 2003 07:37:44 AM new
liveinjeans
Seriously, I hope the problem turns around for you. Ebay should have a required online training course (for buying and selling) before anyone can register. Give them a test at the end and if they fail, they cannot register. Now, wouldn't that be a hoot? It would probably eliminate more than 50% of the existing bidders.
posted on November 6, 2003 09:09:52 AM new
We are living in a me generation where people live their lives doing whatever pleases them. You can't take a person who is out of balance in every area of their life and expect them to behave like an angel for you. These people act like this everyday,you think you have it bad dealing with them,you should have to live with them. Do you really think someone who ran over 6 shopping carts at Wal-mart this morning so they could get closer to the door is going to follow your TOS to the letter?
posted on November 6, 2003 09:14:37 AM new
Hi Cheryl, this should make you feel better.
I could care less! you might say sometime in disgust. You might just as easily have said I couldn’t care less and meant the same thing! How can this be? When taken literally, the phrase I could care less means “I care more than I might,” rather than “I don’t care at all.” But the beauty of sarcasm is that it can turn meanings on their head, thus allowing could care less to work as an equivalent for couldn’t care less. Because of its sarcasm, could care less is more informal than its negative counterpart and may be open to misinterpretation when used in writing.
The phrases cannot but and can but present a similar case of a positive and a negative meaning the same thing.
posted on November 6, 2003 09:23:44 AM new
Thanks, kiara! I can always count on you to search out the answers! Like they say, people who live in glass houses. . .
