posted on November 10, 2003 06:01:51 AM new
Stop, yeah, saw that on the news. I guess it is kind of insulting for the Mcdonalds exec's.....but thats slang for ya!
At least with a McJob, you go - you come home - you get your pay. EBAY is much more rewarding but I dont know about you guys, but I am almost always thinking about it in one form or another. What I gotta do; what I gotta ship; answer emails; do I need supplies; is that worth selling; on and on ......... was nice to take a little break from it!
posted on November 10, 2003 07:29:06 AM new
MCJob is not a bad place to work. No I don't work there. The Pay isn't to bad but the benefits seem pretty darn good. My son-in-laws sister just got married to a MdDonalds Manager. He has been working there a little over 10 years. After 10 years of service they get 1 week each year for a subatical. So when they got married he had 10 weeks off besides his vacation. Not a bad benefit. I sure would have liked those when I was working. Here on eBay if we take 10 weeks off we would come back and all the pages would be changed. We can't even handle the day to day changes at eBay and PayPal. At least I can't.. I still haven't received EOA notices from 3 weeks ago...
posted on November 10, 2003 07:55:47 AM new
The article this came from said there were 1000 store managers that used to work behind the counter. There are also 400,000 employees nationally.
1000 / 400000 = .0025
One-Quarter of 1 percent of McDonalds employees may have a future at there. I think that DOESs qualify as a dead-end job.
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posted on November 10, 2003 09:19:50 AM new
Aren't statistics fun? You can make them look however you want. I'd say the fact that a Mcjob appeals to a fairly transient workforce (teens, for instance) has a lot to do with the fact that so few are promoted to manager. I don't know of many people who set out to make a career of it. They work there until something else comes along, whether it be college or a different job. That .0025% is probably pretty close to the percentage that stay with the company for more than 1 year.
Correlation does not neccessarily mean causation.
Yeah, ebay is a lot of work and takes up a lot of time. The difference is: 90% of the time I *like* doing it.
posted on November 10, 2003 09:55:02 AM new
I have never worked at McDonalds, but I have worked for Arby's. The biggest pain is having to work with the nit-wit kids they hire in there, they are a pain to be around.The management is awful too. At least with E-Bay I don't put up with either and I can work at my own pace.
posted on November 10, 2003 10:42:30 AM new
fast food vs. ebay - I can't imagine anyone choosing food. My only experience with food services was a job I "briefly" had in college - They had me taking inventory in a large freezer basically, and I quit 90 minutes into my shift.
I do agree that the McDonald's stat is not valid. Most McDonald's employees are not on the management track. Either they are too young, too old, or don't want to. The percentage of those who WANT to be manager is probably in line with other companies out there.
posted on November 10, 2003 10:56:50 AM new
At least with a McJob, you go - you come home - you get your pay. EBAY is much more rewarding but I dont know about you guys, but I am almost always thinking about it in one form or another. What I gotta do; what I gotta ship; answer emails; do I need supplies; is that worth selling; on and on ......... was nice to take a little break from it!
I CONCUR!!! Gracious it is very very good at times but it is very very taxing on the soul and spirit! I have "met" wonderful people but have "met" real idiots also.
YEP , I agree in all honesty we all have probably rationalize "what am I thinking"?? 16 hour a day job is what Ebay is! BUT I still think it is my preference ...is there a doctor in the house???
posted on November 10, 2003 12:14:50 PM new
"YEP , I agree in all honesty we all have probably rationalize "what am I thinking"?? 16 hour a day job is what Ebay is! BUT I still think it is my preference ...is there a doctor in the house???"
That it is, sometimes. The difference is, it's on *my* terms. I'm kind of stubborn like that. One of my character flaws I guess
I have been putting a lot of thought and effort into streamlining things and working smarter instead of harder. I'll admit I spend more time tinkering with ebay than is probably strictly neccessary. The cool thing is, it's something I *like* doing (that doctor here yet?).
Ugh..I worked at Arbys for a few months too. I was about 5 mos pregnant when I started, and it's pretty hard to get a job when it's obvious you're going to be getting a pretty good chunk of time off in the near future (this was, of course, before I even had a computer). I hated it, but it paid the utilities and we were pretty seriously broke. I agree about working with the kids..ack. Some of them were okay, but some of them needed a serious attitude adjustment.
posted on November 10, 2003 12:30:21 PM new
Like all of you, I often have people approach me to get advice because they are thinking about selling on Ebay. I always tell them Ebay is a time vampire, especially when you first get started, before you have learned how to pack boxes in your sleep or bake homemade fresh muffins for the girl who thinks she is God, but actually works behind the counter at UPS. I explain that I haven't seen my dining table for 10 years because it is covered in "stuff to sell", and that the floor in there is covered in styrofoam ghost poop. I tell them their families may not be happy living with boxes stacked 5 high in the den, or wearing bibs to make sure they don't stain their later to be sold shirts. When the inquiring friend starts to look dubious, I recommend McJob.
P.S. Congrats to the poster who said he/she has been able to keep up with the Ebay job in only 16 hours a day! You must be a whiz!
posted on November 10, 2003 12:45:48 PM new
Just like most ebay sellers, I work a lot too. 16 hours x 7 days = 112 hours, if that is your schedule, either you are extrememly rich, or you are doing something wrong! Besides ebay, I do consulting work and web design, and it is not uncommon for me to be working 10-12 hours a day, usually 7 days a week. I do love that for the most part, my schedule is flexible. I can get to appointments very easily, and I can take time off as needed. Next month I am taking a 24 day vacation, which includes a cruise. I just could not dream of doing that when I had a regular job. I didn't get that many vacation days in a year, and I am also planning on taking a cool vacation in the spring and the summer.
Would I recommend ebay to someone? It depends on the person. You do have to work hard, and lots of hours. I agree that the learning curve when you first start is pretty high. After almost 7 years on ebay, and many more years selling through the mail before that, I have it down pretty well. I believe that someone just starting might actually take twice as long as me in doing what I do. I am sure it is the same with many of you here.
Basically, if you have the entrepreneurial spirit, you can succeed. Some people have it, some don't. Those that don't definitely will never make it...
posted on November 10, 2003 01:15:33 PM new
What I love are the people who approach me wanting me to *teach* them "how to do ebay". Um. No. Ask me a specific question, I'll be happy to answer if I can, but to sit by their side like they want..fogetaboudit. I just tell them to go to ebay.com, click on "sell" and it will walk you through from there. Everything else is taught at Hard Knocks U.
posted on November 10, 2003 01:48:10 PM new
What truly amazes me about most people who are asking about selling on Ebay is that it is their FIRST question! They generally have given no thought to buying something to sell, and they haven't looked past the edge of the laptop to see if they have an area to run a business in. Uhhh....were ya planning to haul the boxes to the post office in your Volkswagon? If I ask them about storage space, a work area, or who they plan to use for shipping, etc, it is clear they mostly think of it as just a computer thing, a way to get some use out of that PC they got for Christmas. They seem to think a world of "get rich quick" merchandise lies just outside the door, and they need only drag it into the garage and sit down at the computer for the rest of their lives. Yeah, I spend a lot of time at the computer, but I also spend a lot of time peddling with both feet, and you almost never get the time to coast.
posted on November 10, 2003 05:25:32 PM new
Libra, they might get good benefits but those managers work long hours and holidays, and yes, the goofy kids to deal with! Alot of stamina needed for those jobs!
One could join the military and get 30 days or more off paid vacation a year right off the bat! (And if you have an mos that doesnt ship out alot, youre prob not doing much of anything most days cept waiting around.)
DRM, I agree with you. At least I like doing this and yes you can do it when u want* to
. I am really still learning and havent gotten it down to a science i'd like to yet!
posted on November 10, 2003 05:35:02 PM new
"Libra, they might get good benefits but those managers work long hours and holidays, and yes, the goofy kids to deal with! Alot of stamina needed for those jobs!"
Welcome to the new retail world. It is that way in any retail outlet and minium pay. In 1978 I would not work for less than 12.00 an hour (Skilled labor) Good luck now for 7.50
One could join the military and get 30 days or more off paid vacation a year right off the bat! (And if you have an mos that doesnt ship out alot, youre prob not doing much of anything most days cept waiting around.)
No you get 30 day leave after a year of service and you will need some of it.
posted on November 10, 2003 06:28:35 PM new
And you only get that 30 days leave if your higher ups approve it, which they don't have to. And you can ship out for months or more at a time and never see your family..and and and. Nope, been there, done that, was a great learning experience, no desire to re-up. Hats off to those still out there!
You'd be suprised how low the pay is for the enlisted guys and gals.
And I don't know about anyone else, but I shipped out very little, and I have never worked physically harder at ANY job. Great benefits though.
posted on November 10, 2003 06:31:44 PM new
ever been to a 99cents only store??
i bot a pair of cuticle scissors for 99 cents made in korea??
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. I am really still learning and havent gotten it down to a science i'd like to yet!