posted on January 1, 2004 07:03:58 PM new
Anyone ever taken a look at some of the companies that buy up the banner space here at Vendio?
It's like the Island of Misfit Vendors. Horrendous web design, outrageous pricing, known scam artists, rank amatuers (my fav is is the one with a "jewerly" section that wholesales $10 rings for $22 and tell you they retail at $50).
Don't they realise the more amatuerish advertisers reflect poorly upon their image?
As for Vendors like Liquidation.com who are reputable have their act together - I am surprised that they would choose to possibly be linked in with the likes of some of these others.
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posted on January 1, 2004 07:19:34 PM newIt's like the Island of Misfit Vendors.
ROFL fenix!
True though - but I choked on my water when I read the line above!
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"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to the people who sleep under the very blanket of freedom I provide, and then question the manner in which I provide it. I'd rather you just said 'thank you' and went on your way." - A Few Good Men
Fluffy - might be an interesting marketing experiment. Do you stand out from the amaturish sites with bad design, horrible organization and riduclous prices and benefit from contrast or get lost in the mud they create?
Have you ever talked to anyone over at Liquidation? Maybe they can tell you if it has been beneficial to them.
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posted on January 1, 2004 08:19:56 PM new
Without getting into details, let's just say I'm talking to them a lot right now. Hopefully there will be a mutually-beneficial conclusion.
posted on January 2, 2004 12:20:24 AM new
Fenix, I was wondering about that offer on EBAY's home page for Banners hit with the keyword search???? I didnt really absorb the whole thing, but you know....the free word always attracts one to see what it is!! haha.
posted on January 2, 2004 04:05:17 PM new
Tis a bit more complicated (or SIMPLE) than THAT!
I used FOUR of these advertisers & my experience was:
TWO were FANTASTICALLY WONDERFUL companies with super-fast shipping & excellent & careful customer service (SUNSHINE and MBK) -- I really can't say enough GREAT things about the nice & HONEST folks at these two companies!
TWO were the absolute PITS of HELL, with TERRIBLE service, verging on the CRIMINAL to such an extent that one had to be referred to the FTC/FBI/LOCAL POLICE!
All that being said, it still ignores the root problem with even the GREATEST advertisers -- so obvious when ya stop & think about it, but I had to LEARN the HARD WAY: if ANYBODY can buy from these folks, then EVERYBODY is selling the SAME OLE JUNK on feeBay...donna expect many bids when there's 300 of the same item up for grabs at the same time
posted on January 2, 2004 04:05:36 PM new
I love blanket statements such as this. Yes people - all wholesalers are scam and you are silly to use them. There is no such thing as a reputable wholesaler. Don't you know that all items o directly from factory to retailer with no stop at wholesalers or distributors in between? And lord knows there are no reputable liquidation services. Don't you know that when companies close down their remaiing stock is burned - it's never sold at liquidation in order to say be used toward company accounts to pay back creditors in a bankruptcy. That last remaining inventory in your local Zany Brainy and FAO Schwartz stores will simply be burned in the parking lot at the end of business the last day.
Idiot
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posted on January 2, 2004 05:39:20 PM newTo anybody who does business with the liquidator/wholesaler types: I HAVE A BRIDGE TO SELL YOU.
It's like doing business with anyone else: you have to do your homework. If you don't, it's just like doing business with anyone else: you get burned.
Failure to do your due diligence when dealing with a vendor does not mean that all such vendors are scamsters.
I am a liquidator. I blow out some items one at a time on eBay, I blow 'em out in lots elsewhere on eBay, I liquidate them in really big lots on l.com.
As with most English words, "liquidator" and "wholesaler" don't necessarily mean what you might think. And they don't necessarily occupy the places on the supply chain you might imagine. So don't worry about names, investigate the details of a particular deal to find out if there's enough room for you to make a profit.
posted on January 3, 2004 11:19:34 AM new
Okay, please explain, Fluffy, if I buy from you a big lot of liquidated items...then try to sell them on ebay, I am also competing with you. I did look at your liquidation items before, and some of it looked like it was different, but, if memory serves, one was the same item.
No attack, I am just trying to understand. Isn't the cardinal rule of buying wholesale not to compete with the person you are buying from? I mean, I am the 2nd tier middle man, so it wouldn't be very competative to your pricing capabilities.
Just trying to figure it all out, no hidden agenda!
J
posted on January 3, 2004 12:39:13 PM newIsn't the cardinal rule of buying wholesale not to compete with the person you are buying from?
I'm sure that's the way some wholesalers would prefer it but in truth they can't control a market. All they can do is threaten to stop selling to you.
I don't know that *any* of the people who buy my big lots do so to sell on eBay, but even if they did, I wouldn't care. Folks have been doing that with my stuff for years.
Some may recall that I posted here some months ago about a dilemma I had. My best friend (who lives in another state) started bidding on my auctions. I was uneasy about this, but she pays promptly and her money is good, so how can I complain? Last week she told me her secret: Most of the stuff she buys she's marking up 100% and selling it to a woman who has gift shops all up and down the state. It's that supply chain again; I wasn't necessarily where I thought I was. Do I resent it? Heck, no.
My friend has a consignment store connection that only takes 30% of the sales price (a real bargain) so the higher-end pieces go there.
More power to her. I'm cheering her on.
Folks in the antiques biz know this is how it has worked since time immemorial.
posted on January 4, 2004 02:44:29 AM new
re: VD advertisers -- after some looking & losing moola, my conclusion is:
The drop-shippers t'aint REALLY drop-shippers!
They are drop-shipping from THEIR drop-shippers...this ain't really wholesale, now is it?
I miss my little store up in Boston where I bought (over 18 mos) around 1000 items for $4.00 each & sold each on feeBay for a minimum of $15 (30% went for over $25) + Shipping with a nearly 100% STR!
