posted on June 11, 2004 05:14:10 PM new
I would like some other opinions on this.
I had won an auction where shipping was free. It was in the title description. The seller had no other "fees" associated with the auction. When I received his invoice to pay via paypal, there was $1.00 listed under the "shipping and handling section".
I have since found out the $1.00 is for "handling". I would have no problem paying the $1.00 if was listed in the auction description, but it wasn't. I feel this seller is charging extra fees at the end of the auction to make an extra pofit or to get the price he really wanted to sell the item for.
I know the shipping and handling debate has been discussed in the past and I don't want to get into a discussion of how shipping and handling costs should be handled.
Has anybody else run into similar situations?
Do you think the seller is right in charging fees that are not listed in the description?
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posted on June 11, 2004 05:24:07 PM new
Shipping and handling are the same thing. No matter how it is stated or what goofy twist you put on it. I would turn them into PayPal for charging a fee.
posted on June 11, 2004 05:34:21 PM new
would it make you feel better if it is called processing fee??
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posted on June 11, 2004 05:36:26 PM new
Shipping and handling are two different things, that is why there are two different words. Still the seller is a weasel playing games with the definition of their words and what the bidder reads into their meaning. Besides they probably mean Medicare and fuel surcharge, but had to list it under handling.
Was the auction for a White House ashtray? Aren't liberals taught not to air their private disagreements in public?
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posted on June 11, 2004 05:52:52 PM new
I agree that shipping and handling are the same. I have disputed the handling charge with the seller so I will see what happens.
What ticks me off is that this seller is trying to use the handling fee to get his price to what he thinks the item should have sold for.
This seller had multiple auctions up for the same item. I won mine for $19.00 and he charged me the $1.00 handling fee.
A friend of mine won the exact same item for $15.99 and the seller tried to charge him a $2.00 handling fee.
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Change is constant. The history of mankind is about change. One set of beliefs is pushed aside by a new set. The old order is swept away by the new. If people become attached to the old order, they see their best interest in defending it. They become the losers. They become the old order and in turn are vulnerable. People who belong to the new order are winners.
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posted on June 11, 2004 06:11:54 PM new
If the item only sold for the minimum of $12.99, I wonder how much his free shipping would cost?
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posted on June 11, 2004 06:18:34 PM new
Ask the seller a question:
How much is free shipping to zip code 90210 with a purchase price of $13.50, closing on a Tuesday during a full moon, taking into consideration normal temperature and barometric pressure.
I believe logansdad asked an eBay related question. If he had wanted your political opinion, he would have posted his question in the Round Table. Some of us come here when we need to escape the policital threads.
posted on June 11, 2004 06:39:48 PM new
Cheryl, He asked for opinions and I gave mine. And then I had a little fun with it. I don't apologize if that offends you, in fact you may KMA.
Guess I'm not on your PC list.
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posted on June 11, 2004 06:45:25 PM new
Shipping,,,,,,,and,,,,,,handling have NOTHING in common..Shipping fees are just that, whatever the P.O. or UPS wants. (he says FREE shipping, No problem he is willing to eat that,,,,He does NOT say FREE handling) Handling is what the sellers want for their expenses in packaging, readying, for shipment.
I HATE the way e bay presents that statement.
Should be,,,,but I could all day long, Never going to happen.
And the word HANDLING leaves a lot to be desired too. I MAN handle most of my sales. Heavy! bulky! Big boxes, tape, paper,filler foam,plstic wrap, this ALL cost REAL money! Time, materials and LABOR.
posted on June 11, 2004 06:51:15 PM new
I just got a DSL box. S/H was $12.95 UPS delivered. Sender is 50 miles away in L.A. The actual UPS rate is more than likely, $5.00.....THEY make money on this so called HANDLING.
DSLextreme,,,,yippie!!!!! Good riddance EARTHLINK!!!!!!!!!!
posted on June 11, 2004 07:20:14 PM new
hi again logansdad;
hi again logansdad:
forget my request...i checked for myself..
i pulled up 54,000 "free shipping" in title only auctions. examples follow:
[1] free shipping...[auction had opening minimum 0.99]...free shipping was correct, BUT insurance was $2.20.
[2] free shipping...if more than one of sellers auctions won.
[3] free shipping...if you use the "buy it now" price.
[4] free shipping costs...$2.50 handling for materials and packing.
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and about half of the 30-40 i looked at, were offering free shipping that appeared, to me, to be legitimate professional.
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hi Parklane:
this is what longansdad typed....
"I would like some other opinions on this."
"I know the shipping and handling debate has been discussed in the past and I don't want to get into a discussion of how shipping and handling costs should be handled."
"as anybody else run into similar situations?"
"do you think the seller is right in charging fees that are not listed in the description?"
posted on June 11, 2004 07:33:34 PM new
why dont we all move to Bangladash where 1.00 goes a long way?
if ebay bidders can win item at one penny and pay 5.00 for shipping,why cant you pay one dollar for handling??i dont get it??
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posted on June 11, 2004 07:34:06 PM new
If it wasn't listed in the auction ad and it appears that it wasn't, I would pay yhe $19 via cc and see what happens, if the seller b*tches, then report them to ebay and paypal for charging a surcharge.
posted on June 11, 2004 07:51:06 PM new
811 078 8260.FREE SHIP......just a random selection,,lucky random hit I might add. High feed back. Professional seller.
posted on June 11, 2004 07:52:19 PM new
The seller wrote back and said not to pay the "handling charge". I also suggested that he put his "handling charge" in the aution description if he planned on charging one. He said he would.
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Change is constant. The history of mankind is about change. One set of beliefs is pushed aside by a new set. The old order is swept away by the new. If people become attached to the old order, they see their best interest in defending it. They become the losers. They become the old order and in turn are vulnerable. People who belong to the new order are winners.
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posted on June 11, 2004 07:56:16 PM new
jackswebb: Shipping,,,,,,,and,,,,,,handling have NOTHING in common..Shipping fees are just that, whatever the P.O. or UPS wants. (he says FREE shipping, No problem he is willing to eat that,,,,He does NOT say FREE handling) Handling is what the sellers want for their expenses in packaging, readying, for shipment.
If the auction had stated shipping was free but there has a stated handling charge. I would have been fine with that. I would have know what my maximum bid was. This guy's handling charge was $1.00, what if he decided to charge $10.00 for handling after the auction ended?
It is the same thing as people not bidding on an auction without knowing the shipping cost before hand.
Thanks everyone for you opinions.
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All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.
Change is constant. The history of mankind is about change. One set of beliefs is pushed aside by a new set. The old order is swept away by the new. If people become attached to the old order, they see their best interest in defending it. They become the losers. They become the old order and in turn are vulnerable. People who belong to the new order are winners.
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Look under products for Crest that will give you a better search for the auction.
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Change is constant. The history of mankind is about change. One set of beliefs is pushed aside by a new set. The old order is swept away by the new. If people become attached to the old order, they see their best interest in defending it. They become the losers. They become the old order and in turn are vulnerable. People who belong to the new order are winners.
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posted on June 11, 2004 09:00:28 PM new
Sorry myoldtoy if I misunderstood you. I wanted to give you more information about the auctions without releaving the auction itself.
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Change is constant. The history of mankind is about change. One set of beliefs is pushed aside by a new set. The old order is swept away by the new. If people become attached to the old order, they see their best interest in defending it. They become the losers. They become the old order and in turn are vulnerable. People who belong to the new order are winners.
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posted on June 11, 2004 10:30:09 PM new
Don't listen to Jacka--. He is never right and could be mistaken at a desendant of auctionace, or is it bidsbids? or now parklane?
Shipping and Handling are the same thing. I still would turn this loser into paypal stating he is charging you a fee for using PayPal. And make sure to give them a link to the auction.
posted on June 12, 2004 08:17:15 AM new
I just bought a travel size shower gel. I paid 79 cents. I didn't notice the shipping was over $10. My fault for not noticing the shipping cost before hand and checking the feedback first.
posted on June 12, 2004 08:45:20 AM new
popnrock, If I was in your situation I would have told the seller I wasn't going to pay. $10.00 to ship a small item like that is excessive. I would have taken the neg. and moved on.
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June is Gay Pride Month
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All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.
Change is constant. The history of mankind is about change. One set of beliefs is pushed aside by a new set. The old order is swept away by the new. If people become attached to the old order, they see their best interest in defending it. They become the losers. They become the old order and in turn are vulnerable. People who belong to the new order are winners.
James A Belaco & Ralph C. Stayer
posted on June 12, 2004 09:53:47 AM new
the seller comes with the gel,he is going to rub it on her back .
a bargain !!
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all day long, Never going to happen.