posted on July 27, 2004 12:16:51 PM new
Help requested on Homer Laughlin Baby Bunting Baby Dish
Do any of you have Homer Laughlin books? I am researching a baby dish/bowl for my sister. It shows wear and is marked Homer Laughlin, Made in the USA, and C5N or CSN. I can find baby dishes with the identical or similar Baby Bunting transfers but they are listed with English marks, like Trenle China Co. and a date of "early 20th century" is mentioned. A Homer Laughlin site does show a Baby Bunting plate but gives no date. If any one who knows Homer Laughlin or has access to a reference book can suggest a date and "book value" (which I know we can not expect to get on eBay) it would be very helpful.
Thanks for any assistance.
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posted on July 27, 2004 12:37:04 PM new
Sorry I can't help on this one. I have the Collector's Encyclopedia of Homer Laughlin China, by Joanne Jasper as a reference. What a joke! It doesn't give and date coding or show a picture of that shape. Doesn't have alot of value as a reference book.
posted on July 27, 2004 12:41:12 PM new
Thanks for trying to help Max.
We are pretty sure it is not new since it shows signs of wear. Was it common for Homer Laughlin to reissue earlier designs by English companies? -----o----o----o----o----o----o----o----o
“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
posted on July 27, 2004 12:58:00 PM new
It was common for Homer Laughlin (being a huge pottery concern) to sell *blanks* that were then decorated by other companies.
posted on July 27, 2004 01:30:57 PM new
I found an undated Baby Bunting plate under "HLC Kids" on a collectors site. There are several different child's patterns shown. In the Ephemera section there are ads for HLC childrens' patterns so they did make some under their own logo.
http://www.fiestafanatic.com/hlccollpage6b.htm
I also have read that the letter/numbers at the bottom are a key to date of manufacture. Perhaps someone could help me with that.
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
posted on July 27, 2004 02:37:25 PM new
What is the letter or number in the middle,(between the C & N) The C stands for the 3 month, The N is for HLC factory "N". The middle letter or number denotes the year. The "N" stands for Newell, W VA. Dating didn't start until 1910, & was changed several times. After 1930 a lot of backstamps do not have dating information. If they do it is very straight forward. i.e. D 36 N6, would be 4th Mo 1936, factory N6.
HLC created a line of Children's Ware in the 1930's. There were several differnt ones put out by various companies"Little Orhan Annie" mugs were produced for Ovaltine. Also "Dick Tracy" was reportedly produced for Ralston Purina. I can't find anything that is specic for this one. Sorry, best I can do.The book I am using is "Homer Laughlin, Decades of Dinnerware" by Page/Fredrickson Publications. 558 pages
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[ edited by sanmar on Jul 27, 2004 02:38 PM ]
posted on July 27, 2004 02:58:43 PM new
Thanks Sanmar. The middle letter/number is either 5 or S. It is not clear. After 1930 did they use the last digit of a year? If so could it be 1935? If it is from the 1930s it would be a nostalgic design I suppose. I don't think boys wore dresses that late and the verse does say "he". Seems the English dishes I have seen in this design are around 1900.
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
posted on July 27, 2004 05:32:09 PM new
If this was made in the 30's, there SHOULD be two numbers for the year. I believe the "N" is for plant 4 in Newell, WV.
In the 20's they used a single digit for the year, but I'm unsure what the plant designation was for this time period.
I used both "The Official Guide to Pottery and Porcelain" and "The Collector's Guide to Homer Laughlin China".
posted on July 27, 2004 05:41:54 PM new
Thanks, TerryAnn. We are grateful for all the suggestions. I read a site on Laughlin marks and found it rather confusing. -----o----o----o----o----o----o----o----o
“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
posted on July 27, 2004 08:37:15 PM new
Photo...Try this site for info on the backstamp. When you finish, click the "back to home page" link and bookmark it for future reference. This site has helped me a lot in the past. http://www.homerlaughlindishes.com/index_files/hlcinfo.html
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posted on July 27, 2004 09:36:35 PM new
As I can find no referece to a S in the center, this has to be a 5. Therefore it was March of 1925 in the the Newell, WVA Plant. This makes it 79 yrs. old. Hell, thats older than I am. lol
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[ edited by sanmar on Jul 27, 2004 09:39 PM ]
posted on July 28, 2004 06:07:33 AM new
You guys are the best! I was thinking it was a 5 and maybe 1935 but if the 30s had two numbers then 1925 works for me.
I have not found any values listed on this item but my feeling is that my sister got a good buy at $2.92. Is it any wonder that we call her the "Thrift Store Queen"?
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
