posted on August 27, 2004 10:25:55 PM new
Anyone know a good site for identifying and valuing Hummels?
I have two pieces that I know were purchased in Germany during the war. The first is what I guess is the predessesor to the umbrella girl and umbrella boy as it has the pair together under a single umbrella and bears the large bee mark.
The other figure is a girl holding a bugle (?) in one hand and a tall flowering plant with a yellow bird sitting atop it in the other. This piece has the signature mark on the pedesal but none of the recognized marks on the base, only a stamp of Germany and hand written numbers 82 and 2150 or 2/50. there are a couple other markings but I think they came post factory.
I'd include pics but am waiting for my camera battery to finish recharging. I'll try to post them in the morning (along with some crystal pieces I need help identying). Any help in the mean time is greatly appreciated.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on August 27, 2004 10:51:32 PM new
Hi fenix, I have a book on hummel's so if you post a picture when you get a chance I would take a look for you. the book is from 1976 complet ecollectors guide so hopefully they might have the older pieces in it. Be glad to look it up if you want.
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The only I see with a girl an a bugle and flower plant like you describe is called HUM 17 Congratulations. You might want to start there of a google search?
[ edited by neroter12 on Aug 27, 2004 11:03 PM ]
posted on August 27, 2004 10:53:25 PM new
Fenix, I used to have a Hummel figurine book but I don't see it so perhaps I have it packed as some of my things are in storage.
I know Replacements has a listing of some of them.
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posted on August 28, 2004 11:17:05 AM new
This is the first one that seems to predate the umbrella individuals and come from the 50's - anyone know it's name?
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on August 28, 2004 12:31:11 PM new
...and the mystery piece... notice the lack of recognized Hummel mark on the bottom. It is the same as the piece Nero pointed out (many thanks) but the links I found to that name show it as a 70's piece which I know this predates. Any Hummel afficianados have an idea what the story could be?
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[ edited by fenix03 on Aug 28, 2004 12:33 PM ]
posted on August 28, 2004 05:52:07 PM new
okay fenix heres what i got. u may have already got this in your research but here goes: the first v bee mark was 1950. there are diff varients for the years thru 1959 of the size and undergaze colors. like 59 the mark is back n blue. 1960 goes to a new bee redesigned by goebel. I am sure you've got to this already. The boy girl umbrella is hum 71 stormy weather. if the 82 is incised, it may be a simple q/control no. the only thing about the "germany mark" is it says it is supposed to read U.S-Zone Germany and it may have been rubber stamped over the glaze. They also note some collectors have removed the U.s. zone markings from the figurines with thehope of passing them off as prewar pieces. It says look for abrasion in the glazing under light to see if this is so. US zone marks were used from 1946 thru 1948.
This book is huge with some much information it could get your head spinning. So I hope what I pulled out is of some help to you. (You should do really well with these. - excitiing!! I know my sister collected them at one time but the most I've ever come across to sell on ebay was a Goebel honey pot from the 70ties
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posted on August 28, 2004 06:30:43 PM new
My mother would kill me if I sold them. The Boy and girl were her mothers. They were sent to her by her brother (my great uncle) when he was in germany during the war. He sent dozens of these to his wife who is who the other one came from. Basically, without children to pass these on to I will be the end of the line for them but I guess they will sit in waiting as the future down payment on a twilight years cruise Between now and then, it's just a matter of figuring out what they are and value for insurance.
(The daughter in law of my great aunt hated Hummels and without letting anyone know, included the collection in the estate sale letting them go for 25 - 50 each. Luckily her son had grabbed some pieces a head of time to send to various family members)
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
Between now and then, it's just a matter of figuring out what they are and value for insurance.