kraftdinner
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posted on August 6, 2001 12:55:10 PM new
There seems to be growing speculation that the moon landings were staged, what do you think?
http://www.apollo-hoax.co.uk/
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MrsSantaClaus
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posted on August 6, 2001 01:11:03 PM new
I used to - but now I am just "corn"fused!
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Borillar
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posted on August 6, 2001 01:14:28 PM new
I always that it to be possible. When I was a kid and Neil Armstrong landed on the moon, somethign struck me as being wrong. I wondered how a camera could show the lunar lander setting down on the moon when Neil had yet to take a single step on the surface? Or, who was filming from OUTSIDE when Neil was decending down the ladder to speak his famous misquote? That always struck me as it being a hoax. Maybe they filmed the lander taking off and reversed the footage to make it look like it was landing? Who knows?
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nebula5
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posted on August 6, 2001 01:31:30 PM new
http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/index.html
[ edited by nebula5 on Aug 6, 2001 02:54 PM ]
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rachelcrisscross
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posted on August 6, 2001 02:44:14 PM new
Yes.
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toke
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posted on August 6, 2001 02:53:10 PM new
Well...yeah.
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kraftdinner
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posted on August 6, 2001 02:59:50 PM new
Wow, thanks nebula5. That's a great site to counter-act the hoax sites.
Like Borillar says, I just thought the camera shadows weren't right, but didn't realize all this other stuff.
I'm not sure I totally agree with everything the author says, but I'll have to read more.
BTW Borillar, there was a camera on the lunar lander as explained by the link nebula5 provided.
[ edited by kraftdinner on Aug 6, 2001 03:04 PM ]
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gaffan
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posted on August 6, 2001 03:04:47 PM new
The only camera shot of the landing was taken through the window of the LM. There was a shot of the lunar liftoff, taken by a camera set up for that purpose while they were out on the surface.
-gaffan-
(waiting to find out what I can put in my sig file)
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uaru
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posted on August 6, 2001 03:12:23 PM new
Borillar I wondered how a camera could show the lunar lander setting down on the moon when Neil had yet to take a single step on the surface?
What channel were you watching when you saw that? I was glued to my set and I thought I had seen it all.
It's just another conspiracy. Who in their right mind would believe man was capable of such a technological achievement. I think we should applaud the thousands of NASA workers and subcontractors and reporters for keeping the lid on the conspiracy as well as they have. The failed attempt on Apollo 13 was a great touch. Apollo 13 was fabricated just to add credence to the other 6 successful landings.
By hoodwinking the world that man has actually landed on the moon we gained... hmmmm... well I'm not sure what we gained, but then in a conspiracy theory you don't have to actually need a reason (other than sell books or gain attention.)
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gravid
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posted on August 6, 2001 03:18:25 PM new
There were a bunch of sites some silly some reasonable thinking it might have been a hoax.
The one that got me wondering was one that involved a fellow who asked NASA for prints of the rover and other equipment and was told they no longer existed. Would you not archive all the information about such an acomplishment?
After he could not get plans he went to the Smithsonian and measured up the copy they have of the Moon Rover. He claimed that it will not fit in the bay that was supposedly used for it in the lander.
Another thing he claimed was that there is no shot of a suited astronaut showing the earth in the background. He felt the earth shots were all from an unmanned probe. Sorry I don't remember how to find the site. If you search I am sure it will turn up if they are not included in this site above. Iwill look at it tonight.
[ edited by gravid on Aug 6, 2001 03:20 PM ]
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NearTheSea
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:03:34 PM new
I think we should applaud the thousands of NASA workers and subcontractors and reporters for keeping the lid on the conspiracy as well as they have.
That proves right there why it was not a hoax.... I mean, somewhere in over 30 years, someone woulda cracked....its the nature of man to do that.
The entire transcript
http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/history/apollo/apollo-11/apollo-11.html
(Borillar, I did a link, but not a political one! )
[email protected]
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krs
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:11:34 PM new
"I mean, somewhere in over 30 years, someone woulda cracked....its the nature of man to do that"
NOT! It's been nearly forty years and no republican has admitted being involved with George Bush, that guy Helms, the CIA, and the cuban anti-castro factions in the assasination of John F. Kennedy. At least, none of them who weren't killed in the first few months after the assasination ever talked.
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bunnicula
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:23:39 PM new
Of course no one has ever landed on the moon. Just how gullible would one have to be to believe that... Probably the same kooks who bought into the idea of circumnavigation, a western hemisphere, the holocaust and talking to people who are thousands of miles away.
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NearTheSea
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:32:59 PM new
krs huh?
(first is that a link?  )
[email protected]
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uaru
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:34:10 PM new
krs It's been nearly forty years and no republican has admitted being involved with George Bush, that guy Helms, the CIA, and the cuban anti-castro factions in the assasination of John F. Kennedy
krs, I thought surely you knew that NASA was behind the Kennedy assassination. NASA knew that Kennedy would never support the hoax, they had no choice but to eliminate him. NASA also had to eliminate Robert Kennedy also. NASA knew that only Nixon and his dark army would support the hoax they had to have someone in league with Satan (republican) in office. I've seen this documented on many web sites and bathroom walls. The men's room at the Texaco station where I-10 and 1-59 intersect has the most complete info on this conspiracy, look in the third stall. Fascinating reading.
The lengths NASA took to pull off this hoax were more expensive and more of an accomplishment than actually going to the moon.
It's always a hoax or a conspiracy, if there isn't proof it's a hoax or conspiracy then it's a good hoax or conspiracy.
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kraftdinner
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:35:44 PM new
No NearTheSea, that's his new signature line.
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NearTheSea
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:44:54 PM new
oh, ok, thanks kraftdinner
just checking
[email protected]
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krs
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:53:34 PM new
It was. The republicans planned to make space into a battlefield and to do that they had to have the beginnings of a star wars technology. Michael Rennie was the first republican secretary of space war under eisenhower, and it was his plan to conquer the world by use of star lightbeam lazer weapons. The democratic administrations had to be stopped, and the people convinced that these were marvelous things rather than ridiculous wastes of taxpayer money. It's why Nixon was in New Orleans on Nov. 22, 1963. The plan had called for Kennedy to be shot there and he wanted to watch, but the New Orleans stop was delayed and Kennedy went to Dallas where the secondary plan was implimented. Nixon reportedly threw his beer glass across an airport bar when he found out that he was to be disappointed.
Republicans still believe in the master plan, as witnessed by the absurdities continued today by each republican administration.
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NearTheSea
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:57:56 PM new
Oh yeah! I remember the movie.
I'll remember to tell Art this tonight on the wildcard line.....
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loosecannon
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posted on August 6, 2001 07:00:01 PM new
Yes, we really landed on the moon. But don't forget, not just once in July 1969, but several other missions too.
Borillar
I believe they had a camera on the Lunar Module that popped out to film Neil Armstrong descending the ladder.
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I believe that the reason they stopped the Moon missions was because they realized that with our level of technology back then, it was too risky for the astronauts. After all, the Apollo program claimed 3 astronaut's lives and nearly claimed 3 others.
Plus, we had landed there more than a few times, and the tremndous costs involved. I think it's interesting that after all this time we haven't seen a manned Mars mission. I'll bet it's because we still are not confident in the technology involved. They aren't confident enough that astronauts can go to Mars and get back home or they would have already done it.
[ edited by loosecannon on Aug 17, 2001 07:36 AM ]
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ontime
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posted on August 6, 2001 07:10:16 PM new
You people crack me up, ROTFLMAO!!!!!  Ontime
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rachelcrisscross
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posted on August 6, 2001 07:11:28 PM new
http://home.earthlink.net/~morningsky/concon.htm
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jamesoblivion
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posted on August 6, 2001 07:45:41 PM new
I never met a conspiracy theory I liked.
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Microbes
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posted on August 6, 2001 07:46:37 PM new
Well, I'm gonna go there, and salvage all the moon buggies and sell them on eBay. 
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jt-2007
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posted on August 6, 2001 08:05:56 PM new
They said on CNN news tonight that the main "competition" to the group that is planning to clone 200 babies, is motivated by a religion that believes we are alien transplants. Funny thing is the reoprter said it very factually without cracking a smile.
Moon landing? Yes.
T
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Pocono
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posted on August 6, 2001 08:22:49 PM new
I think that George Dubya is one of those little aliens from "Mars Attacks" in disquise... moon? I doubt it.
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Zugspitz
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posted on August 6, 2001 10:06:29 PM new
the conspirators should be ever so grateful to the russians. After all - there was kind of a race to the moon going on.
And to think that all these years, with the cold war going and all, they kept quiet!
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Femme
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posted on August 7, 2001 05:16:45 AM new
YES!!!!
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What goes around, comes around.
There was a movie back in the '70s (don't recall the title) showing how the "conspirators" staged the "landing".
It was hogwash then and is hogwash now.
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bitsandbobs
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posted on August 7, 2001 05:25:14 AM new
It's time the world was told the truth about what really happened.
You see, Armstrong was not the first man on the moon.
It was me.
A week earlier the Australians sent me up there to film the landing.
You must know by now that Australians make great movies!
Bob, Downunder but never down.
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