posted on August 28, 2001 01:06:29 AM new
Seriously.
At least according to Pat Robertson:
"This is man in rebellion against God, who refuses to take God's Law. And God says, 'My covenant says you won't do this. And if I find anybody in Israel,'-- "which is his pure nation" -- 'If I find anybody in Israel that's doing this sort of thing, then I want you to take him out and dispose of him."
posted on August 28, 2001 03:34:13 AM new
Well a lot of science fiction assumes that if a UFO comes down and lands on the White House lawn that is pretty much the reception they would get anyway.
posted on August 28, 2001 06:40:03 AM new Can a demon appear as a slanty-eyed, funny-looking creature? Of course he can, or it can. Of course they can deceive people.
Can a demon appear as a bible-thumping creature? Or course he can. Of course they can deceive people. And, teach them hate.
Given my druthers, I would rather live in a world of "slanty-eyed, funny-looking" creatures.
posted on August 28, 2001 11:21:09 AM new
Too late Femme. I beat you to it. I've been bitchslapping him in my mind for years now and it doesn't do any good.HMMMM... Maybe I haven't been doing it right. Go forth and bitchslap.See if it works for you.
That man is a nut. Have you ever noticed how many of the RR look like him? Little elf ears,high forhead, close set beady eyes? Bush has that look, Newt Gingrich has that look, there are so many others that do. My husband and I have noticed it over the years. Either they are really inbred or they are all....Aliens!!!
Hinduism:
http://www.flex.com/~jai/articles/robertsn.html
I remember tuning into the 700 Club because I'd heard about this & couldn't believe it, but my jaw literally dropped to actually hear Robertson spouting that one of the world's major religions was "demonic"!
posted on August 28, 2001 11:47:53 AM new
So far, I haven't been able to get through the Eating Disorders section without laughing. To each his own, but.....
"I think food is for the belly and the belly is for food, but God's going to destroy them both."
and
"You're a slave to your mouth, and that's the bottom line"
posted on August 28, 2001 12:32:17 PM new
bunnicula -thank you for the link
I didn't realize that the Seattle-Tacoma area led the nation on suicide, I'd never heard that before, though I have heard that a lot of people here develop SAD or whatever, the Seasonal Affective Disorder?
which is depression. But I believe, sure there is a Satan, but I also think that people do really suffer from depression and it doesn't have to be demonic possession.... yikes....
But being born and raised here, I'm used to the weather... dunno ....
posted on August 28, 2001 12:54:39 PM new
LOL Bunni! It must be because we are mostly "bleeding heart liberals" here and vote democratic! [the majority do..not all....Gosh, I would never say all]
posted on August 28, 2001 01:31:05 PM new
We laugh about this, but it has always seemed to me that the Religious Right or Moral Majority or whatever the hell they call themselves these days is every bit as dangerous as the Nazis were. These people are not in touch with reality. They are zealous adherents to certain ideals and openly condemn those who disagree -- in some instances, even suggesting that they deserve to be exterminated. The scary part is, they're right here in our midst, much larger and far more powerful than any of the Neo-Nazi or white supremacist groups that many people regard as a "threat" to freedom. While few made a big deal out of the fact that both of our last two Presidential candidates were Born Again Christians, it really worried me (and maybe this is due to my personal view that the Born Again movement is more of a cult than a religion). This movement that so many people scoff at or chuckle about now has one of their representatives in the most powerful position on earth.
Fortunately there are enough non-fundamentalist Christians in this country to provide balance, but I wonder if the day will come when the scales finally tip in the favor of the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Falwells.
Maybe that's when the space aliens will finally have to step in.
historic, orthodox, Biblical Christianity should govern every area of thought and life. Chalcedon's cause is simple, radical, and comprehensive. It admits no division between the "private" and "public" spheres. If God is sovereign and Jesus is Lord, this divine sovereignty and Lordship is designed to engulf every aspect of human existence-not just the private and "spiritual," for instance.
[...]
All of our preaching and teaching and lectures and literature and counsel are motivated by this single objective- reorienting all areas of life to the standard of God's infallible word. This includes not only the individual and family and church, but also vocation, technology, economics, education, science, the state-and everything else.
[...]
Christians during this century have abandoned to Satan and secularists one area of life after another, and then had the hypocritical gall to complain loudly about the pervasive evils of modern life-immorality, abortion, homosexuality, blasphemy, socialism, and so forth. It was the Christians' own pietistic inertia that created the vacuum into which modern secularism readily rushed.
[...]
Biblical Christianity is the only legitimate form of Christianity; it is summarized in the early ecumenical creeds and brought to its fullness in the great sixteenth- and seventeenth-century Reformation confessions. Its objective is nothing less than restoring Christian civilization.
The Christian Taliban.
...Chalcedon does not appeal to modern liberalized generic Christendom any more than it appeals to theological liberalism itself. Rather, we appeal to those devout, rock-ribbed saints who believe that if the Bible is good enough for the church, it is good enough for the school and state; who believe that if Jesus Christ is Lord of the family, he is also Lord of the laboratory and the board room;...
Now you know where Robertson gets some of his ideas. Though he doesn't take it far enough compared to the Chalcedons, he's getting closer.
ubb
[ edited by firstover on Aug 28, 2001 02:20 PM ]
posted on August 28, 2001 02:24:18 PM new
Maybe we're coming full-circle. The Puritans who founded this nation were every bit as F-ed up as these guys.
posted on August 28, 2001 02:33:06 PM new" the Religious Right or Moral Majority or whatever the hell they call themselves these days is every bit as dangerous as the Nazis were. These people are not in touch with reality. They are zealous adherents to certain ideals and openly condemn those who disagree -- in some instances, even suggesting that they deserve to be exterminated. The scary part is, they're right here in our midst..."
Yep, and every word is applicable to the vocal majority of the republican party. Try reading the chat forums at newrepublic.com. It's every bit as abhorrent as anything that you can find through the religious right channels and there is so little that distinquishes one from the other that it's safe to assume that they are as one.
What do you think we've been yelling about all this time, spaz?
(I don't think that Al Gore fit the mold well as he is a sympathetic for political reasons only, sort of a 'if you can't beat 'em,..make 'em think you've joined 'em' tactic---and obvious demonic behavior.)
