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 roofguy
 
posted on August 31, 2001 09:36:07 AM new
It ain't just AuctionWatch.

The .com collapse is far from over, as companies fail to make the transition from investor give aways to self sufficient.

If posting counts are predictive of overall AuctionWatch activity, things are bad indeed. Maybe, hopefully it's just the August doldrums.

AW has concluded that one of the few ways we will participate in AW's revenue is by accepting popup ads. The result is that some left forever, and the hard core were motivated to get popup blocking software, and everyone's life degraded a bit because of the need to remember to hit the control key when you really want another browser window.

AW's not the only place which does popups though, the defense was going to be required of all of us sooner or later.

The bottom line is, we need to help make AW profitable, hopefully in "nice" ways.

If you can't afford a quarter, then you ought to give a dime. If everybody gave then we could save the AuctionWatch line.

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on August 31, 2001 09:41:28 AM new
I agree with you in principle since I enjoy AW's boards very much and I would be saddened if they dissappeared. But there just aren't enough dimes and quarters from individuals to make a business profitable.

 
 krs
 
posted on August 31, 2001 12:54:55 PM new
Thank you for responding Ashley,
q)
The ability to clamp on the relatively true surfaces at the chamber end are what brings my interest to the through the headstock method since it would alleviate the slippage in the chuck under load.
But I've thought that the best method of threading a barrel would be to rely on the bore as center rather than on the outer surface of the piece--assuming that a threading that is true to a bore would result in a more reliably straight line through the bolt, action and to the barrel. To use the bore requires a center established from the tailstock. Doesn't the method you use rely only on the machined outer surfaces of the barrel stock for measurements and true? If so, can you see that the result will be a
rifle which is not necessarily built on a
single straight center line but instead would have two-one the barrel's and the other the action/bolt and presumably the stock?
a)
I use a gauge pin to center the bore. I could care less what the shank does.
BTW, the thread concentricity is less important, IMO, than the straightness of the thread to the bore. Think of a cylinder say 0.002 diameter as long as the thread. If the true axis of the pitch diameter wobbles around in that cylinder at some angle, then I will be much more concerned than if it wobbles around a 0.004 cylinder but always parallel to the bore. Of course, I try to get it better, but without expensive gauging equipment it is difficult to determine the true position of the thread axis.
s)
OK. The pin guage is what was missing. It did sound as though the bore had been left out of the setup. I take it you'd guage to the location of the shoulder, or somewhhere between there and the worked end of the bore and that's why you could say that the muzzle was of a lesser concern.
I've relied on the center at 12-14" from the chuck using a steady. I do get >.0002" accuracy over that short span but it takes babysitting the machine to maintain.




 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on August 31, 2001 01:00:45 PM new
That was fascinating, Lester.

 
 Meya
 
posted on August 31, 2001 01:16:08 PM new
If the women can't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.
 
 Borillar
 
posted on August 31, 2001 01:49:57 PM new
As ugly and annoying as advertising is, it is inevitable IMO that people will continue to try to pollute the Internet lifestyle with useless products that no one needs in order to do more than just pay the bills.

Certainly, we want AW to be able to pay the bills. If they didn't, we regulars would have so much less fun in our lives. The pop-up ads do not bother me and guess what? AW will not be having pop-up ads much longer.

What? How could I possibly know that? (Enquiring moderators want to know!)

It's because the Internet and its advertising is changing in a whole new direction - Macromedia Flash ads.

Here's the evolution of Internet advertising thus far:

Static Ads - they still exist and are easily over looked.

Animated GIFs came about because static ads were so boring. The thing is, is that all that a viewer has to do is to hit the Esc Key to stop the annoyance.

JavaScript and its many forms. All one has to do is to download a "fix" and the advertising is gone. Also, so many web sites abuse the power of JavaScript that many users get sick of it and turn off their Java and JavaScript browser functions.

FLASH! Flash advertising is animated, plays as it downloads so that larger files can be made that are more impressive and interactive than JavaScript ever was, and the potential for abuse is not there so everyone will add the plug-in to their browser (soon to come standard with all browsers) and blocking those ads will be nearly impossible.

So, if AW wants to host advertising, then expect to see FLASH advertisements soon - and lots of them, because that's the way ALL advertising is going on the Internet.




 
 gravid
 
posted on August 31, 2001 03:34:54 PM new
Do you have stock to cut the major diameter of the threads after you have the bore zeroed in krs or are you going to end up with some flats on the tops of the threads after you chase them?
And how does that relate to hard times?

 
 krs
 
posted on August 31, 2001 04:19:33 PM new
There you see. Plenty of stock--1.250" tapered to .875". The issue is how to indicate so that the threads remain concentric with the bore and at what point it's most important. The bore cannot be assumed to remain true to center over the 28" length of stock.

There's nothing harder than ruining a $200. piece.

 
 roofguy
 
posted on August 31, 2001 04:23:52 PM new
it is inevitable IMO that people will continue to try to pollute the Internet lifestyle with useless products that no one needs in order to do more than just pay the bills.

It remains to be proven that the internet is a viable medium for advertising at all.

Internet advertising successes have been few and flashes in the pan.

The delivery box is programmable at a very low level. This makes defenses certain to arise quickly to any obnoxious new technique.

In short, selling internet advertising as an important source of profit will always prove an illusion.

 
 saabsister
 
posted on August 31, 2001 04:25:00 PM new
Should we be looking for Freudian overtones?

 
 krs
 
posted on August 31, 2001 04:29:02 PM new
It had to be you.

 
 
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