posted on September 12, 2001 10:54:58 AM new
Below I've posted a letter that a friend of mine received from his 16-year-old daughter. They live in Manhattan and she couldn't make it home from school yesterday, so they were communicating by e-mail.
For myself, I have consciously avoided reading any of Nostradamus' predictions, as well as The Book of Revelations and any/all else that has been presented to "show our fate". I'd rather not know, I don't want to be forewarned... especially if there is nothing I can do to change the outcome.
However, after reading this, I keep thinking back on it. It's a child's interpretation (if one can still consider age 16 a child these days). Her "take" is included in the parenthesis. I'm curious to know what others think. I’m not sure what to think of it.
"In the city of God (NYC....... big buildings..... looks like god built it) there will be a great thunder (the crash). Two Brothers (The 2 towers) torn apart by chaos, while the fortress endures (4th plane doesn't make it to the white house and white house stands), the great leader will succumb (we will give in). The third war will begin when the big city is burning."- Nostradamus 1654
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Another observation she made in the letter:
the flights today were 11= today
93= 12, tomorrow
175= 13 thursday
and 77= 14 friday
add the flight numbers and you get dates. SCARY. i love you so much. im scared to go home, will call in the morning. love XXXXX
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posted on September 12, 2001 02:11:16 PM new
the good thing about "predictions" like this is that they can apply to a whole lot of situations. Make something general enough, and wait long enough, and it will fit something, somewhere, sometime.
same thing with the numbers. Given enough thought and calculation, almost anything can be "found" in a set of numbers...
posted on September 12, 2001 02:40:01 PM new
I tend to agree with captainkirk. Personally, I think Nostradamus was not very accurate, but anyone can read into his predictions to come up with what they want to believe and I wouldn't put too much faith in it all RoseBids.
posted on September 12, 2001 02:49:33 PM new
NYC = City of God
Why? To fit this particular prediction or is there something else that your going by.
It is a nice city (I lived there years ago)
but I found it no more a "city of God" than any other.
It will take more than large buildings to convince me.
[ edited by tegan on Sep 12, 2001 02:51 PM ]
I can't say whether or not Nostradamus could predict the future, but I don't believe he predicted all the bogus predictions that would be attributed to him!
posted on September 12, 2001 09:21:02 PM new
My favorite is the frequent "mistranslation" of "Hister" (what the Romans called the Danube) to "Hitler" (much better prediction-wise)...
Anyway, I just did a search on his collected quatrains, and there's none containing either "thunder" or "brother" which even remotely resembles this.
Rose -- and this is _not_at_all_ meant to be derrogating or casting aspersions or any sort of put down or _anything_ like that -- was it a friend or a "friend of a friend" who sent this to you?
-gaffan- [email protected]
posted on September 12, 2001 09:49:23 PM new
When I heard about this from somebody else last night, it wasn't the "City of God," it was the "City of the New Garden" or some baloney like that.
posted on September 12, 2001 10:14:03 PM new
Yes, that "Hister" reference was the best. What a laugh! Now that I think of it, I don't think ANY of his predictions came true.
posted on September 12, 2001 11:20:11 PM new
This thread caught my eye not because I am interested in predictions but because of a message on Google on the Nostradamus thread. It was posted to another board. I assume that I can't link to a Google thread.
Some guy says on 8/31 that something is going to happen tomorrow. Looking back through his posts, he talks about Allah often and predicts gloom and doom. Several posters confront him on 9/2 when he doesn't follow up with the promised information.
On 9/4, he says in seeming anger, wait 7 days and you will see. The title of the post is 911. He has set up some crepy web site and links to back newgroup posts where he talked about an explosion in a NY building back in 1998. Then when he is accused of being connected to it he claims that he didn't do it but knows that SATAN did.
I was looking at it all and it was just creeping me out so I couldn't read it any more. Several posters claimed to have reported it to the FBI.
I have got to admit that I am getting really really stressed out without this added "other" stuff like freaky newsgroup predictions and Wal-Mart bomb threats. Is any one else beginning to feel very stressed? or is it just me?
T
I don't mean to make light of those who have suffered a real life personal loss. Just admiting that it's getting to me now and I am about as removed as any American can be. Thinking this must really be difficult for kids old enough to understand it.
[ edited by jt on Sep 12, 2001 11:28 PM ]
posted on September 13, 2001 07:24:41 AM newBkmunroe, thanks for the information. Since this was received so shortly after the attacks (within 12 hours), it never occurred to me that it could have been fabricated for the event. Since I’m very unfamiliar with any of the predictions, or even the style in which they were written, I just assumed it to be this young girl’s interpretation of a prediction that existed. Sometimes I can be so naive. But (and in answer to gaffen’s inquiry), the source of the letter is from people I know rather intimately. I’ve had (practically) daily correspondence with this girl’s father for the last 5 years, and have seen this child grow up through his eyes. She attends school in the Bronx, and they live in upper Manhattan (he watched the destruction from the balcony of his apartment – 2 miles as the crow flies). She stayed with a classmate’s family Tuesday night, as it was impossible for her to make it home through the chaos. She is worldly and street-smart (since I’ve known them, she has traveled to at least 6 countries that I can readily recall, mostly without her parents). She moves freely through all 5 boroughs of the city and, (like most New Yorker’s) is not easily “duped”. Through her father’s proud and frequent anecdotes, I feel I know this girl and think of her as levelheaded and extremely intelligent. HOWEVER… I don’t know where SHE got hold of this. Knowing her to be very studious and curious, I took it for granted that she researched, found, and injected her interpretation. In hindsight, there is a likelihood that it was e-mailed to her from another source, although I would think she would have mentioned that in her letter.
Hepburn, she didn’t NAME this the City of Gods – it’s her world and the largest City on earth – but as tegan points out, nicely manipulated to fit the prediction.
And jt – very creepy… and I, too, can not imagine the stress of this situation on the youth of America.
And, off-thread for a moment. This family is originally from India, and they have personal fears now that they may be targeted by the redneck mentality that retaliation is to be dealt out individually towards Arabic/Muslim people on American soil. Since this is the same faction of the population that tends to think “they all look alike” – I can fully understand their anxiety. Please pray for enlightenment.
Back to thread – Curious: if Nostradamus’s predictions have continuously fallen short, why are they still being examined centuries later?
Rosie
edit... anecdotes, not antidotes
[ edited by RoseBids25cents on Sep 13, 2001 07:28 AM ]
posted on September 13, 2001 07:32:14 AM newif Nostradamus’s predictions have continuously fallen short, why are they still being examined centuries later?
posted on September 20, 2001 10:47:05 AM new
>Curious: if Nostradamus’s predictions have >continuously fallen short, why are they >still being examined centuries later?
Why do people pay Sylvia Browne $750 an hour for a "reading?" In a word, gullibility.
posted on September 20, 2001 04:25:38 PM new
I currently have a Nostradamus book up on ebay. In skimming through it--the man's got predictions about everything. Therefore--you can read anything into them you want to. Kind of like reading your horoscope without knowing which sign you're supposed to be--any one can fit any situation.
posted on September 20, 2001 07:32:12 PM new
If you read me that prediction I would apply it to Jerusalem and the Arabs and Jews fighting. Or to Mecca and the factions of Islam. Never N.Y.
NAY