posted on September 16, 2001 06:28:03 PM new
A thought just popped into my head as I started an old movie on video. The movie in question is "The Philadelphia Story" with Katharine Hepburn, Jimmy Stewart, and Cary Grant. The video I have has been Colorized (or Turnerized). When I watch movies that have had this travesty spewed on them, I turn the color settings in the television to black and white.
I've even been known to set regular movies to black and white, just to enjoy the effects/affects??.
So, I'm wondering...do any of you do the same? Or do you "like" the glowing teeth and fake color?
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posted on September 16, 2001 06:33:42 PM new
I appreciate the thread, Meya. We need something else for a change. Everyone needs a break now and then, and I think RT fits the bill about now.
In answer to your question, no, I dont set the color to black and white. I just enjoy the movie. Especially if K. Hepburn is in it
posted on September 16, 2001 06:42:28 PM new
So how many Hepburn movies do you have? I have all 9 that she and Spencer Tracy made together, some on video, some on DVD and one or two on both.
Of course Tracy isn't in Philadelphia Story, but it's still one of my favorite movies. Of the 9 they made together, "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" and "Woman of the Year" are neck and neck as my favorites, followed by "State of the Union". "Keeper of the Flame" is a stinker IMHO, but I still watch it about once a year.
"Desk Set" is a great fun movie, and "Without Love" is fun too, especially with Lucille Ball along for the ride. Hmmm, which ones am I missing...
"Sea of Grass" is ok, "Pat and Mike" and "Adam's Rib" are a hoot too.
posted on September 16, 2001 06:45:15 PM new
Honestly, I dont have any of her movies. I used to have On Golden Pond, but sold it on ebay. I just love her personality and strength, and she is an awesome actress. One of the best, in fact. They dont make movies like she starred in anymore. Our loss.
posted on September 16, 2001 06:46:21 PM new
I don't mind colorized movies at all....Then again, I have never taken an art appreciation class and I have been referred to as a "bumpkin" on occassion.....
There are paintings I don't like either, no matter what great painter painted them. Ugly is ugly to me!
What can I say....if I drank wine it would probably be Boonesfarm. I just luuuuve apples especially since they can be flavored any flavor or combination on flavors you could possible want.....
posted on September 16, 2001 06:49:05 PM new
Sulyn, Boonesfarm is fine with me, if mixed with alittle 7-up. And I agree with you...ugly painting are ugly. Regardless who who painted them, lol. YOu sound perfectly normal to me
posted on September 16, 2001 07:32:58 PM new
I hate colorized movies. I want to see what the movie as the director envisioned it.
The colors are always so fake looking.
Black and white movies can give you a sense of being suspended in another time and place.
That's why modern directors use it still. (Like Shinldlers List}
I was also looked upon as a heathen at art school. At the museum we went to some "artist" took one of those cheap Home Depot bare wood chairs and painted it electric blue.
I was told that it was a profound work of art.
It was crap and even Sister Wendy could not convince me otherwise. I told them so. I fell right off their cool people list.
They would really freak if they knew I made my living now as a "folk" artist and not a "fine" artist like mister blue chair.
posted on September 16, 2001 07:43:06 PM new
mister blue chair? LOL! I needed that, thanks! LOL!
I had a guy that wanted me to sell his art for him on ebay. He wants 250 bucks per painting, and Im trying to think of a polite way of saying NO WAY without hurting his feelings. Its on board canvas...not regular canvas, and it looks like something a 2 year old would do, of the sky, house and people. I swear, its AWFUL.
posted on September 16, 2001 07:58:49 PM new
Color can be distracting...based on my experience with photography it sometimes lessens the empact of a photograph.
But, a lot of current movies would be nowhere without color because that's about all there is... Just a lot of color and sound meaning nothing...LoL!
posted on September 17, 2001 10:13:17 AM new
I want to see the movie as it was originally released. I've found the cable channels such as AMC and TCM are going a step further and showing movies in their original format (letterbox.) Makes the movie much more enjoyable.
posted on September 17, 2001 10:21:10 AM new
seems to me that all the "old" B&Ws are that way simply because that was the only way they had to make them back then. Even when technicolor (?) came out, it was cost prohibitive for most movie project. More than likely if they had of had readily available/affordable ways to do color, they would have been color... Don't think it was necissarily the "directors vision"!
Now if a director chose to make a B&W today or combine it (for flash backs or dreams) then I would say that was the directors vision and shouldn't be messed with!
I thinks we tries to see "artistic statements" or "symbolism" where there really was none intended. Just take a look at "2001 Space Odessey". We debated what was being said in that movie for years. I finally came to the conclusion, it was just a badly written screen play, perhaps poorly directed and edited--there was no intended symbolism. We the public did that all on our own!!! Guess it was hard to imagine a movie being that wacky and full of holes without it being intentional...
posted on September 17, 2001 10:39:12 AM new
I think colorizing classic films is paramount to remakes of such. Turner’s colorization of Casa Blanca is disgusting, deplorable, and contemptuous on Turner’s part. Of course we all know Ted Turner is a narcissistic a--, so what can I say!
I won't watch a colorized film, it destroys the true body of the classic work.
posted on September 17, 2001 10:45:38 AM newseems to me that all the "old" B&Ws are that way simply because that was the only way they had to make them back then.
Actually color movies came out before sound movies. The cameras were much larger and the expense was substantial.
Some directors fought hard against using color for their movies. John Ford demanded that "Grapes of Wrath" be in black and white, Orson Welles insisted that "Citizen Kane" be black and white (the cinematographer on both of those classics was the great Greg Toland.) I can't even image either of those in color, it would completely ruin the movies.
There are some directors that still have enough clout to insist on black and white for the mood they want. Peter Bodgonovich used it for 2 beautiful movies, "The Last Picture Show" and "Paper Moon", Woody Allen required black and white for "Manhatten" (arguably one of the most beautiful B&W movies ever) and "Shadows and Fog" and "Celebrity", Tim Burton's "Ed Wood" made beautiful use of the black and white images.
Could you imagine them colorizing Martin Scorsese's "Raging Bull?"
posted on September 17, 2001 10:58:39 AM newcontemptuous on Turner’s part
Yes, Ted Turner did do the colorizing, but in his defense his "Turner Classic Movies" doesn't show colorized movies, and they show more movies in their original format (letterbox) than all the other cable companies/channels combined.
. I just love her personality and strength, and she is an awesome actress. One of the best, in fact. They dont make movies like she starred in anymore. Our loss.
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