posted on April 7, 2002 11:20:53 AM new
I found a site out of Virginia that sells cigs real cheap.
I decided to try it- what the heck, I've lost a lot more money on "good" race horses.
These were "generic" and cost $11.99 a carton. Buy 5 or more cartons and shipping is free. Unless you live in virginia, no taxes either.
Tried them out- they are good cigarettes !
They are "made in Columbua" South America, but under authority of an American tobacco co. I think they are the same as Marlboro, and are called "Bronco".
I just wonder how long this will go on before the taxman commeth ?
posted on April 7, 2002 12:25:32 PM new
It's been going on for quite a while now, REAMOND. If you can avoid letting greed get the better of you and simply stick to buying five or six cartons at a time, Uncle will stay focussed on the reseller who's buying hundreds or thousands per transaction.
posted on April 7, 2002 12:39:30 PM new
I was using dirthcheapcigs.com then thought I was paying too much at $3.00 a pack. So now I buy them for $5.00---$5.50 locally.
posted on April 7, 2002 06:37:47 PM new
As an admited predjudiced rabid anti smoker I have to ask how can you tell that a cigerette is a good one? What would a bad one be like? I have never smoked although my parents both smoked. But I never ever heard either of them say "Wow that was a good smoke".
posted on April 7, 2002 07:46:47 PM new
Here's the link. I would experiment with a carton, there are several brands for $11.99 a carton. I can't guarantee you'll like them, but there are a lot to choose from. I just ordered my second batch, cut my smoking expences in half.
posted on April 7, 2002 09:57:14 PM new
We've been buying through www.tobaccobymail.com for the last several months. Been buying generics (Seneca) that average out with shipping to be about 12.50 a carton. The website is a pain. (They play music!) But the 1-800 # once you find what you like is friendly and fast. They even have a sampler carton to try the off brands.
posted on April 7, 2002 10:09:17 PM new
Thanks for the links
Gravid, well even though I smoke, and yes I know its a bad habit, there is a big difference in brands, even though most brands are made by the same company.
Marlboro seems to be the most popular. And they are the most expensive, esp. up here in WA, as they are almost or are $5 a pack. I found a place where I buy a carton including tax for $40 even.
I remember when they were 50 cents a pack... now thats a long time, too long.
Some cigarettes are harsher than others. I think brands like Camel or Winston are harsh, but thats just me. People who smoke those may think Marlboro are harsh, but it seems the only ones I like
They say, and I don't know if its proven fact, but they put something in Marlboros, something that makes them more addictive? I don't know. But I also heard that a long time smoker quitting, can sometimes be like a herion addict quitting. It really is hard, I've tried. Patch, gum .... couldn't do it.
posted on April 7, 2002 11:12:11 PM new
Nera the Sea - Thanks I really appreciate an answer. I do understand about quiting. My Mom was never able to quit although she gave it a lot of good tries.
It is interesting that in Scientific American a few years back I read that there are some people who just lack the proper brain chemicals to be addicted. The reserchers actually found that out from people who sold drugs on the street. They told the scientists that they had people who would buy Heroin and use it and not come back and buy more until they had the extra money and apparently not suffer in the mean time. Of course the scientists did not believe the people as they are distainfull of anyone who is not an official member of their club.
I have seen the same thing with smokers - I have worked with people who might have a smoke and if they were busy and not thinking about it go all day without another. My Mom was not that way. When she had gone about 15 minutes without she noticed. Her body told her in unmistakable terms.
I know they do blend to make some brands have certain nicotine levels but the most surprising thing I learned about cigerette ingrediants is they are the worlds biggest users of licorice.
I am resentful of our government and medical establishment that they don't have residencial treatment programs just like for Heroin or Cocaine for those that really need it.
I have read that some compounding pharmaceys are making nicotine lolipops that work better than the patch or gum. Of course they are trying to stop them from doing that since the money does not go to a big drug maker...
I wear a patch now but it secretes narcotic pain reliever instead of nicotine. Been on it a couple weeks and it seens to work pretty good. It was hard to keep on until I learned to put it on my ankle under my sock
posted on April 7, 2002 11:16:42 PM new
NearTheSea I've tried everything too. I smoked Marlboro for years. Now I smoke Kent III ultra light 100s. They're much milder, and if I smoke a Marlboro now I get really sick and cough all the time.
I wish I could find some kind of link to show what it is they do put in Marlboros.
Someone had told me exactly what it was, but that was awhile ago.
It is hard. I think I did a whole 2 weeks cold turkey and then went back to smoking.
Have you heard of people putting holes in the filter, I think with a needle, one or 2 holes one day, then 3-4 and on, until they quit... I haven't tried that, but I heard a lot of people have quit that way.
I really do want to quit, I think, I admit, I lack the total desire to quit... if that made sense
Gravid, I know what your saying. Nicotine withdrawl can produce withdrawl symptoms that can be awful, as your mother had.
I've heard of the patch of for painkillers, now that is an interesting way they have made them, its time released right? Makes a lot of sense.
I know the patch is supposed to be that way, and people have quit using it. I have boxes of patches... some that people have given to me as GIFTS! well they wanted me to quit. I did try them, I ended up lasting about 6 hrs, ripping it off, and lighting up... a lot it is psychological, I know, but I think there is a lot of chemical stuff going on.
I don't even smoke a whole pack in a day, compared to my husband, who must smoke at least 3 packs a day.....eeeeeek... and he is now working in a corporate office, where its an absolute no no, and has limited time to go outside, but he's managing, maybe this will be the time where he will quit...
posted on April 8, 2002 10:46:24 AM new
When I smoked for 21 years, one thing that really bothered me was that the filters on cigaretts are made out of fiberglass. When you smoke a cigarette, the heat begins to vaporize part of the fiberglass and you end up inhaling it permanently into your lungs.
Funny thing: fiberglass is regulated because it is so hazardous to your health. In Oregon, it is seen nearly as nasty and dangerous as asbestos. Just having fiberglass exposed to the air emits fibers that float on the air and your lungs act like a wet sponge and filters the air clean of fiberglass. Dangerous stuff.
Since fiberglass filters seem to be the main cause of why smokers get lung cancer, emphazima (sp?), and other lung ailments, why doesn't the tobacco industry come up with a non-lethal filter mechanism? I'm not talking about forcing them by government action to come to their senses about this, it's just common sense: there will be more profit because there will be less lawsuits for them to handle, and more customers to keep on buying. You know, they could change the filter to something less nasty and then announce an "improved" filter.
They don't, because they are afraid that if it became common knowledge that the FILTERS cause most of the lung cancer, then they'd get sued badly - and they would too! That's because there has never been any warning about the damned fiberglass filters!
I started to tear off the filters from cigarettes for safety after I learned about that. I switched to non-filtered cigarettes for a long time because of it. When I quit seven years ago, you could still have your tobacco supplier order cartons of non-filtered cigarettes in any brand that you like to smoke. I even found one cigarette brand that still had the old-fashioned cotton filters.
posted on April 8, 2002 11:05:53 AM new
I remember that it used to be considered real Ritzy to use a holder for cigerettes and some of the long ones had their own filters.
Cigarette filters are made from cellulose acetate. In the mid-70s there were rumors that these were "contaminated" with fiberglass. These rumors grew each year. In the 90's Can-Test, tested cigarettes sold in Canada and found no fiberglass.
posted on April 8, 2002 08:28:00 PM new
I've run into a few people who swear success with these puffs of nicotone thru a plastic inhaler. It's one of the newer approaches but I can'r recall the name of it.
Once I knew a guy who swore by the "Sedona method" (Of Sedona, AZ) but I don't kknow what that was.
I have it on good authority from a friend of mine that one can chew this utensil to bits attempting to get a good "puff" from it. Plus, it tastes like air-freshener.
