posted on May 13, 2002 05:38:53 PM new
Hey aurora! Dig your teeth into this one! I heard tonight on MSNBC that a Mexican family (or families) is suing the U.S.. Apparently their relatives died from thirst while attempting to illegally enter this country. It seems the relatives feel that the U.S. was negligent in not supplying water in the desert regions of the Southwest. A countersuit might involve failure to provide PEPTO at the border.
posted on May 13, 2002 07:37:20 PM new
This was in my newspaper last week. My understanding is that the suit has been filed. They are suing because the government does not put up water "waystations" in the desert. I know that some individuals do put up and maintain these water tower stations in parts of the California mountains and deserts. Mexico has been putting in the water towers in it's desert and makes available "survival packets" that include, of all things, condoms. There was an article in our newspaper about it a couple of months ago.
posted on May 13, 2002 09:15:55 PM new
If crossing the border illegally is a crime, then giving them water stations and other "survival" items is Aiding and Abetting a crime -- right? And if the President of Mexico wants to do that for his people, then he is screwing us and stealing your hard earned tax dollars to pay for his negligence in getting his country to become self-sufficient.
Since Bush LOVES El Presidente', doesn't that make him "consorting with Known Criminals" - those who are against the laws of the United States?
posted on May 13, 2002 10:00:39 PM new
We could seal that border in 48 hours if we wanted to.
The fact is that we turn a blind eye to the illegal border crossings because it acts as a pressure relief valve for Mexico and has been used as such for decades.
If we bottled the border up there would be riots and revolution in Mexico within 90 days and we may end up with another Cuba.
It is politically untenable to just open the border up and it is politically untenable to seal the border, so the good old USA just does a halfassed job patroling the border.
Heck, I think we ought to start schools teaching english in Mexico. We're going to have to open that border at some point as our population ages. The immigrants will be paying our Social Security and taking care of us in the nursing homes, so I want them to at least speak the language.
I think the watering holes would be a waste of money as the border may be wide open in 10 years or less.
posted on May 14, 2002 09:43:28 AM new
The legal theory is that if you have an attractive item like a swimming pool you are required to seal access to it so that the unwarry will not fall in and harm themselves.
I guess a land where you can earn something and have a decent life is rather attractive if you live just a walk away and have zero opportunity and are impoverished. So that border should be sealed if they regarded the lives lost as of any value. But they don't.
posted on May 14, 2002 07:34:23 PM new
If we are going top act in a legal fashion then we must examine precedent. The precedent is that the land they have invaded falls under 2 claims prior to theirs.
A.The Apaches and other tribes have a legitimate claim that the government of Mexico and the mexicans entering the USA are trespassing, the Mexican government has not addressed the claims of the native peoples. This is something worldwide that White populations do out of a sense of guilt and responsibility and because native Americans have learned how to go to law school.
B.The donner party and other simliar groups set the precedent that the area was uninhabitable for temporary or permanent use.
C.The original constitution of the United states says that all non whites are 3 5ths of a human being without rights specifically excluding Native Americans from this classification, since the 14th amendment only
addresses slavery there has been no court decision overturning the original artlcle section therefore I content that no nonwhite have any rights under this document as i is presently worded with the specific exception of former slaves and their descendant and native Americans. Therefore they have no standing before the court.
D.That if in fact any or all of the above defences should fail then the act of retaining citizenship while entering illegally with the overt blessing of their government should subcatagory 1. put the blame on the Mexican government for improperly equiping invading troops.
2.be cause of action for a state of war under which no claims are recognized under international treaty, further that Mexico has on several occaisions conspired with foreign powers during times of duress that the Mexican government should be held financially acounatble for the expenses incurred by the USA and Canada for the costs of illegally transporting and conspiring to transport their population to other soverign nations.
