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 auroranorth
 
posted on May 14, 2002 08:17:57 PM new
Every day somewhere in America a Homeowner is able to defend themselves from crimminals by the lawful use of Their firearm. Every day the NRA teaches Values and Understanding of the principals this antion was founded on. God Bless the NRA.
 
 mlecher
 
posted on May 15, 2002 09:16:51 AM new
Ohhhh....here's some trolling

Okay... I'll bite

Statistics show that a handgun purchased for the protection of the home is 52 times more likely to be used in committing a murder. That doesn't include accidents.
There are only 10 types of people in the world
Those who understand binary and those who don't
 
 yellowstone
 
posted on May 15, 2002 09:46:31 AM new
Statistics show that a handgun purchased for the protection of the home is 52 times more likely to be used in committing a murder.

mlecher, Unless you show us your source of information I have to believe this is nothing but pure BS. Now who's the troll, bite on that?


[ edited by yellowstone on May 15, 2002 09:48 AM ]
 
 auroranorth
 
posted on May 19, 2002 11:59:23 AM new
your stats are a big lie, the few stats that are out there were compiled by the center for disease control, the same clowns who destroyed all the smallpox vaccine. with in my opinion about the same effect.I had a family member murdered by the scum that floats loose out there, had he been armed it would not have happened, by the way they never bothered to make an arrest. The only thing person demonstrates when they preponderate disarming citizens is their own ignorance of History and the reasons for the founding of this nation. If the Palestinians were as well armed as the Israelis Little kids would not be shot with their father sitting against a rock ledge begging for their lives. And No auctionwatch teinsoft and the ADL secret police will not like this statement either.

 
 auroranorth
 
posted on May 19, 2002 11:59:44 AM new
your stats are a big lie, the few stats that are out there were compiled by the center for disease control, the same clowns who destroyed all the smallpox vaccine. with in my opinion about the same effect.I had a family member murdered by the scum that floats loose out there, had he been armed it would not have happened, by the way they never bothered to make an arrest. The only thing person demonstrates when they preponderate disarming citizens is their own ignorance of History and the reasons for the founding of this nation. If the Palestinians were as well armed as the Israelis Little kids would not be shot with their father sitting against a rock ledge begging for their lives. And No auctionwatch teinsoft and the ADL secret police will not like this statement either.

 
 nycyn
 
posted on May 21, 2002 11:38:41 AM new
We may find the NRA has done us a favor. I feeling something coming and I find it strangely comforting that I don't *have* to rely on a rock.

Could be shell-shock paranoia, but does anybody else smell something coming, or did they get the tee-shirt during 'nam when I was still a kid?

 
 auroranorth
 
posted on May 21, 2002 12:23:44 PM new
yes,
these political appointees,

who purchased power pandering, have become nothing more than
Pencil pushing, Paper piling, parasites,
and they know that the number of people pissed off in proportion to the pack rats planning all these programs, puts them in prison if we can organize and get power.

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on May 21, 2002 12:54:20 PM new

I was aganist guns for a long time because I felt safe. Now, with the movement of Bush's America closer to a martial-law society, I am very afraid and you will never find me with only a rock for defence.

Helen


 
 nycyn
 
posted on May 21, 2002 12:54:59 PM new
auroranorth:
and pickled peppers packed! LOL!
[ edited by nycyn on May 21, 2002 12:56 PM ]
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on May 21, 2002 01:01:14 PM new
Nycyn

I just heard a special alert about possible terrorist attacks against landmarks in NY, such as the Statue of Liberty.

It was issued by the FBI.

Let us know if you have any news.

Helen

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on May 21, 2002 01:15:19 PM new
Now, they have discounted the report, based on a tip from a jailed terrorist.

 
 nycyn
 
posted on May 21, 2002 02:57:38 PM new
I'm pacing like a caged animal on amphetamines. I don't even have anybody to put my kid on a plane to. I just heard.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on May 21, 2002 06:00:03 PM new
You might think that I'm insane for saying this, but I've always believed that American Citizens should be able to purchase whatever weapon(s) that they want and that they can afford. I never understood why we can't own live grenades and advanced weaponry like the state does. Would there be accidents? Sure! Would murders occur? Sure! But if you took away the grenade, they'd murder with a pistol. If you also took away the pistol, they'd murder with a knife. If you also took away the knife, they murder with a baseball bat. And so forth. Do you see a common thread here? The person who is going to commit murder is going to do so, no matter what weapon they have on hand! And having a gun is NOT encouraging someone to commit murder. (crime, maybe, but not murder)

So ---

There is simply no reason for the state to keep bazookas, grande launchers, smart bullets, tanks, armored personel carriers, or whatever from the hands of American Citizens.

P.s. that bit about 52 people being killed by guns everyday: take away automobiles first, because they kill more people everyday than handguns do all year long!



 
 auroranorth
 
posted on May 21, 2002 10:52:03 PM new
Try to follow this, in terms of a nation there is no greater crime in the eyes of law than treason. During our revolutionary war with the corporate monarchy of England many of the citizens aided and abetted the government forces. once the war ended. neither in the articles of confederation or in the bill or rights or in the constitution or in the constitutions of the original 13 staes did any one even remotely suggest that the tories as they were called be disarmed. there was no one who suggested anyone be disarmed even crimminals. Crimminals were not disarmed because we had 2 forms of punishment the public locks or flogging or similar short term or hanging if the person was a clear and present danger. The term well regulated militia has to be put into the context of lexiongton and concord at the first muster over 300 showed up but when the British finally arrived about 80 were there now then if this is to mena well regulated militia then in the case of a disaster with legal precednet 3/4 of our reserve and guard troops could just decide to stay home? of course not. because the state has no right to screw around with a citizens right to keep and bear arms. at the battle of bunker hill the Americans built fortifications and attempted to hold the brits at bay. th43e British finally over ran the fortifications when the colonists ran out of ammunition they ran out of ammunition and were slaughtered. this happened because of the measures the crown had passed to disarm the citizens. does anyone in their right mind believe that given this frame of reference the founding fathers intended for petty beaurocrats to dicate the right to keep and bear arms ? reference America's wars and military Incursions by edwin p. hoyt.


 
 Helenjw
 
posted on May 22, 2002 06:18:41 AM new
Auroranorth

Thanks for the book recommendation! It's a hard one to find new but there are a few copies available used on Amazon.

Helen



 
 
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