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 twinsoft
 
posted on July 16, 2002 12:22:19 AM new
Some years ago I was at a Grateful Dead concert. The band was playing "Friend of the Devil." Garcia looked at me and started playing licks from Don Maclean's American Pie, a song about the death of Buddy Holly.

I didn't get it, but I looked up some information on Buddy Holly. I found that he, Richie Valens and The Big Bopper died in a plane crash (aka, the day the music died) within days of my birthday. After reading a little about Tibetan Buddhism, I realized that I was an incarnation of Buddy Holly and the others.

Another interesting factiod was that Buddy Holly (according to the story) chartered the fateful plane so he could get to a concert early and do his laundry. When I was serving in the IDF, I missed a bus so I could go back to the barracks and get my laundry. The bus was blown up by terrorists and all aboard were killed. My first thought upon hearing of the tragedy was that I was a ghost. (This happened before the other thing.)

Anyway, the Dead concert was just the beginning of what was later diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenia. For example, I experienced symptoms such as delusions of grandeur (being contacted by angels). And a lot more. At first it was kinda cool, but after a while it became nightmarish. I had some consolation in that my experiences paralled occurances described in The Tibetan Book of the Dead. I realized I was (already) dead.

You may be glad to know that after years of effort, I have corrected most of my superstitious thinking. What I can't explain away, I simply ignore. Angels don't bother me any more. I have learned to maintain.

By my reckoning, when you die, you wake up at a Grateful Dead concert.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 
 krs
 
posted on July 16, 2002 03:29:07 AM new
I'm pretty sure that you're the reincarnation of my sister's dead cat, Fred, and that would explain all that you've said.

 
 snowyegret
 
posted on July 16, 2002 04:16:47 AM new
By my reckoning, when you die, you wake up at a Grateful Dead concert.

So when you die, you wake up a Dead head?

Dh will like that version, but hopefully he'll keep on truckin for a while.

You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
 
 antiquary
 
posted on July 16, 2002 11:42:01 AM new


fred's dead, sister said
in garcia's getaway
krs lay, its idle head



 
 REAMOND
 
posted on July 16, 2002 11:50:08 AM new
Are you sure you're not Waylon Jennings ? He gave up his seat on the ill fated plane.

 
 Dejapooh
 
posted on July 16, 2002 12:05:27 PM new
I am the preincarnation of my great grandson. Boy is that going to be great!

 
 Borillar
 
posted on July 16, 2002 01:02:33 PM new
Realize that Hasidic [sic] Judaism still believes in Reincarnation, as all Judaism did when Christ was alive. The idea of reincarnation was tossed out of the Christian faith at the Councils of Nicia circa 325ad.

Modern Quantum Physics tells us that other higher dimensions exist. Those higher than our 3rd and 4th are referred to as Hyperspace. It is the thought that we extend into all dimensions simultaneously and that psychic phenomena (and other strange particle behaviors) are made possible by these higher planes of existence. It is also possible that when one's body dies, it dies only in the 3rd dimension and continues on higher dimensions.

Twinsoft, whatever other may think of your experiences, please have the faith to continue with them. I do not mean religious faith, but scientific faith: reasoning. I have had so many coincidences-beyond-coincidence in my lifetime that I have a firm belief in psychic ability and an existence of some sort after the death of the body.

For instance, I believe that I can transfer what the Chinese call "Chi" to another person; especially if they are sick, post-operative, or near dying. When my mom was dying of cancer, my brother and I both did the same thing and it seemed to help her out a lot. But to tell you a bit of vindication, my mother on the day before she died, was admitted to the hospital where she passed away. In the emergency room, I was there with my wife who was silent and we were alone with my mother. I was busy sitting there holding my mom's hand and passing me Chi to her. A nurse walked in and was about to say something and noticed the monitors hooked up to my mother: all the readings were rising. Oxygen intake increased, heart rate strong and steady, and so forth. The nurse remarked about how surprised she was at that. When I turned to look at her and I stopped the transfer, the readings went down slowly. The nurse was confused and did not know exactly what to say. I turned back to my mother and began to pour it on again. This time, I looked up at the monitors and sure enough - all of her readings were elevating and normalizing as I passed my Chi to her. The nurse saw that and couldn't believe it and did not comment, but turned away and left.

I have never talked much about this to my wife, but since she could see for herself that I was able to create an effect that registered, I merely said something like, "You see what I mean?"

Twinsoft, by that example, I am saying to take those things that you can prove to yourself that what you are witnessing and experiencing to be true as real. Do not discount them because Western Medical thought thinks that you need treatment. You might, but then again, you might not.



Sp. only
[ edited by Borillar on Jul 16, 2002 01:04 PM ]
 
 auroranorth
 
posted on July 16, 2002 08:13:28 PM new
Being the devil's advocate here Bnilar But this transfering of Chi might not others consider this to be prayer? and the more the more powerful ? Like having all Children say the pledge of allegiance with under GoD each morning ?

 
 Borillar
 
posted on July 16, 2002 10:14:49 PM new
No.



 
 chococake
 
posted on July 17, 2002 02:16:41 AM new
Can I have some of what you're all smokin?

 
 gravid
 
posted on July 17, 2002 06:04:23 AM new
Borillar - Laying on of hands. Not prayer at all.
I often ask Christian people if the people who they believe are in heavan will be called back when the "sea gives up it's dead" etc - and they have no answer and just get put out at me.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on July 17, 2002 11:18:48 AM new
gravid, I have no idea what laying on hands actually entails, nor does what I do have any spiritual or religious significance in fact, other than in western history. In the East, its treated like acupuncture. Its auroranorth like saying that acupuncture is prayer of some sort. It's not. It's a natural phenomena that anyone can do if they knew how to access it and to make it flow.

I think that everyone is capable of doing the same thing that I do and no supernatural deities need apply. It is like sports: just about anyone can throw a ball, but some are born with a talent to toss that ball into a hoop or at a bat and it just comes naturally to them. Others have to work at it to get the same effect, and others may never quite get it at all, even though they are capable. I think that some people have a natural feel for how to do this (like me) and others can learn (I've tried to teach) and others think its all hooey because they can't conceive of themselves being able to do this at all. What can I say?

I can't really even say its "Chi" because I have no idea what it is that I am actually doing or transferring. It tingles slightly in an odd way I can't really describe and it has heat and pressure that can be measured (I get an increase in palm temp, but anyone can do that simply by thinking about their hand getting hot). What exactly is it? I have no way to know for sure.

I don't talk about it to anyone anymore because I either get the weirdoes who've seen too many X-Files episodes on TV or they freak out one way or another, or are just uncomfortable about it. But, I felt I did have to mention to Twinsoft, because Western medicine still laughs at the notion of such proven things like bio-feedback and controlling pain through willpower and if she has visitations by angels, what right does western medicine have to make a person think that they're suffering from brain trauma of some sort? Is western medicine qualified to determine Who can see angels and who can't; or when a visitation by a supernatural entity is real and when it isn't? Now I'm not saying that Twinsoft wasn't suffering from delusions, all I'm saying is that she might not have, as my own abilities which are outside the norm tell me that nearly anything is possible.




 
 clarksville
 
posted on July 17, 2002 11:25:48 AM new
Maybe you can channel Xanii from Planet Thirty Nine .

Normally when performers "look" at a specific person in the audience, it really doesn't mean anything. It could have been a rock for all they care. Also, sometimes, the lights are blinding them, so they really can't "see" the peeps in the audience.



 
 gravid
 
posted on July 17, 2002 11:53:11 AM new
Takes a lot more than that to freak me.

Once my wife was asked what I was like by someone who had not met me. She told them if I walked in a bar and it was the scene from the bar in Star Wars I'd sit down and order a beer and mind my own business without a pause or look.

 
 mlecher
 
posted on July 17, 2002 12:05:16 PM new
You can not be the reincarnation of those three. They were reserved earlier for Brittany Spears, Yanni and Vanilla Ice.....
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Reality is a serious condition brought on by a lack of alcohol in the system

 
 auroranorth
 
posted on July 17, 2002 12:14:07 PM new
Gravid that just menas that you have been to the bars around here.

 
 gravid
 
posted on July 17, 2002 01:11:03 PM new
auroranorth -- I once was Up North in Feb. around Mullet Lake and after a week in the woods skinning out critters and in a woodburning stove cabin with no shower and working on oily snow machines we got so rank and nasty that we went to a bar across the lake on snow machines and the owner thought we were local boys!


[ edited by gravid on Jul 17, 2002 01:12 PM ]
 
 mlecher
 
posted on July 17, 2002 01:23:52 PM new
Oh well, there goes my appetite....
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Reality is a serious condition brought on by a lack of alcohol in the system
[ edited by mlecher on Jul 17, 2002 01:24 PM ]
 
 gravid
 
posted on July 17, 2002 01:27:22 PM new
auroranorth understands - It's a MI thing.




[ edited by gravid on Jul 17, 2002 01:33 PM ]
 
 auroranorth
 
posted on July 18, 2002 04:43:35 AM new
Well at least the owner did not mistake them for local girls.

WE consider it a problem here when someone does not have morels.

(most of them are going to miss that one)

 
 snowyegret
 
posted on July 18, 2002 07:51:08 AM new
Auroranorth, that's a truffling problem in the scheme of things.
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
 
 
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