nharmon
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posted on July 16, 2002 07:36:11 PM new
ya- I looked too. I came across that auction on Ebay item # 1365612545 and I almost felt it should be called something else other than negro. I taught my kids to say African American and this auction just caught me off guard I guess- wondered if I was over reacting. Isn't that word "negro" not really used anymore.
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mlecher
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posted on July 17, 2002 09:30:51 AM new
Negro is still used to designate the race. Just as Caucasian(sp?) and Oriental.
I just have a problem with "African-American". Are arabs from Egypt called African-Americans??? How about Libyians???? Moroccans????
So what I am saying is what do these labels indicate???? The country of your ancestors origin or the color of your skin???
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gravid
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posted on July 17, 2002 10:06:40 AM new
Reminds me of a New Yorker cartoon where a white guy is talking to a black on at a cocktail party and he says - "So what are you people calling yourselves this week?"
My sister in law grew up in South Africa after her parents went there from Wales.
I insist she is African-American.
I should be called European-American.
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clarksville
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posted on July 17, 2002 11:02:35 AM new
Out of boredome I searched for the other word for Negro and found 267 results with 108 completed auctions, in various catagories ie Music.
I didn't look at the individual auctions.
GRAVID, you could be a EAP, European American Prince 
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gravid
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posted on July 17, 2002 11:54:52 AM new
Is that like an American Jewish Princess?
Origin and attitude?
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mlecher
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posted on July 17, 2002 12:00:38 PM new
Well I'm a Welsh-German-touch of Native-American. Genus: Upstateus NewYorkious
Questions:
Is a Black Person in Brazil considered a African-American?
Isn't a Mexican-American a bit redundant?
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Linda_K
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posted on July 17, 2002 12:46:21 PM new
When I returned to the work force I was describing another work mate as 'the colored girl'. GASPS were heard. I asked what I had said...was told they are referred to as African American now. I obviously wasn't being very PC. I shared my mother called them negros when I was young, and my generation called them colored or black. Still can't figure out why the NAACP hasn't updated their name.
Oh and Mlecher - I just recently was also told not to use the word 'Oriental'....to be PC now one must refer to them as only Asians.
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mlecher
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posted on July 17, 2002 01:01:00 PM new
But, but, but...Caucasians are from Asia....are we not????? Negro, Caucasian and Oriental refer to physical design. Asian, European, African, etc., etc. etc. refer to region of origin (origin being a randomly set time and place otherwise we would have to put up with each other as equals )
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gravid
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posted on July 17, 2002 01:07:14 PM new
Hellofa shame anybody cares but a doctor to consider probable disease they might suffer such as sickle cell or skin cancer.
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nharmon
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posted on July 17, 2002 01:19:05 PM new
Thanks for your input on the subject. I was unsure if the word in question was politically correct or not. I was under the impression it was not and that is why it shocked me to see that. I had just come across another auction last night as well that indicated the item for sale was" as smooth as a babies ass." I found another auction this morning where the seller indicated he would "hunt you down like a dog if you didn't pay for your auction within 10 days". And here I just say I am going to report them to Ebay if they don't pay within ten days- I must be too nice.
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Linda_K
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posted on July 17, 2002 01:21:03 PM new
in a perfect world, gravid....but we're not there yet.
mlecher - but..but..but...  I wish we could just all be referred to as Americans...period.
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nharmon
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posted on July 17, 2002 01:57:28 PM new
I was renewing my drivers license last week and did you know that the Native American ahead of me renewed his license at a reduced rate because he was a Native American. Their kids get vouchers for school shopping so they can get the nike shoes and the columbia jackets and don't have to look at prices. I too wish we wouldn't have to label everyone for political correctness. I wish we could all be Americans period as well-good point from another user above- thank you.
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mlecher
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posted on July 18, 2002 08:22:37 AM new
I wish we could be labelled as members of the Human Race(with a few exceptions). Calling ourselves Americans is also a little arrogant. Are South Americans called Americans? How about Mexicans, Central Americans and those evil and wicked "CANADIANS"
Cubans, Jamaicans, and Puerto Ricans are all "Americans"
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Linda_K
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posted on July 18, 2002 09:13:48 AM new
Calling ourselves Americans is also a little arrogant.
Arrogant? I don't agree. Proud to be an American. Proud we live in one of the best countries in the world. Wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I don't see calling ourselves Americans means we're offensively exaggerating our own importance, or putting other nations down....we're just ringing our own bell...tooting our own horn...patting ourselves on our backs. Being proud.
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mlecher
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posted on July 18, 2002 09:32:06 AM new
But who are the "Americans". Only those who live in the USA. Then that is where arrogance comes in. Sort of like Columbus "discovering" America, like we were taught for so many years. Turns out it was a real suprise to all the natives who were already here, being discovered and all. Hell, they did not even know they were lost.
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oklahomastampman
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posted on July 18, 2002 11:01:38 AM new
If "American" is not PC, what should we call ourselves? After all, a person in Canada can call themself a Canadian. A person from Mexico can call themself Mexican. But what would a person in the United States of America call themself if American is not allowed? United Stateser? A Statesian? A USian? Nothing is intuitively obvious to me other than the presently accepted "American".
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mlecher
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posted on July 18, 2002 11:25:34 AM new
Ahhh, there's the rub. Our founding fathers should have come up with a better name.
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Valleygirl
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posted on July 19, 2002 09:43:04 AM new
I too, have a problem with the term "African American". In reality, how many people who call themselves that term can place an ancester back to Africa? And most of them would be 6 - 8 generations ago.
I am 4 generations removed from Sweden, 3 generations removed from Germany and 4 from Holland. Yet I don't call myself German-American or Swedish-American. So why must someone 8 generations removed call themselves "African-American".
If we were born or naturalized here, we are American. Nothing more. Remember third grade and the Melting Pot?
Not my name on ebay.
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bkmunroe
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posted on July 19, 2002 02:42:08 PM new
Well, the trouble with "African-American" is that it would use 16 of the 45 available characters in the title. So, I'd use "black" or "negro" in the title and use "African-American" in the description.
I remember when someone, it might've been Oprah, was asked why she refered to herself as "black" instead of "African-American" replied with something like, "I've been colored, negro, afro-american, and black. I'm tired of changing!"
Of course, who is an African-American is a tough question. On Saturday Night Live, Charlize Theron was hosting and Tracy Morgan did a bit where they came to the conclusion that Charlize is African-American because she was born in Africa and is now an American. So, I guess she is African-American, although tall-leggy blondes isn't what I think about when I hear someone refered to as "African-American".
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