posted on December 10, 2002 01:59:01 AM new
"beginning with the first edition "Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather,""
Uh,,, where exactly are they slapping leather?
Actually I have always seen a violent angry edge to homosexual culture so a gun slinger seems appropriate.
posted on December 10, 2002 07:17:49 AM new
Sounds Ok to me. May serve to remove the stereotypical feminine perception that homosexuals have to deal with in this society.
posted on December 10, 2002 08:43:52 AM new
Yeah. Rawhide. Saddle sore. No lack of puns there. I'm still a little unclear on the concept. Beginning with ... why?
Because homosexuals do not reproduce, therefore, they have to grab them younger and younger.....
Waiting for the flaming and venting
Helen....Remove the stereotype????
In a bubble in the first edition of the series, Rawhide Kid comments about the Lone Ranger: "I think that mask and the powder blue outfit are fantastic. I can certainly see why the Indian follows him around."
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posted on December 10, 2002 09:19:31 AM new
As a kid who grew up on Batman and Superman, I find it unfortunatel that this medium is being used to politicize any topic. It's about the crimefighting, stupid! Having said that, I guess Marvel is trying to reach out (or, cash in) on a wider market. (Note the home page states, explicit content.)
There's a comic book store near where I work and the large majority of customers are geeks, not kids. This gamble might pay off for Marvel, and if so, we can look forward to more of the same.
If I want weird stuff, there's nothing better than Zap comics. I still have a few "Furry Freak Brothers." The Checkered Demon was a favorite of mine.
posted on December 10, 2002 09:35:31 AM new
Mlecher
Lol...I don't know anything about homosexuals or toys such as batman or robin. I shouldn't have posted my comment on this thread. Chalk it up to boredom and ignorance.
I could discuss my Barbie doll aversion but that would be off topic.
posted on December 10, 2002 09:46:30 AM new
I did work with two homosexuals and they were very nice people. Both had a fantastic sense of humour, good character, and integrity.
posted on December 10, 2002 12:10:58 PM newAs a kid who grew up on Batman and Superman, I find it unfortunatel that this medium is being used to politicize any topic.
But...just that was done during WWII--superheroes fought Nazis, remember? And, IIRC, in the 50s Superman fought Commies...
At any rate, this comic like so many others today is aimed at adult readers, not kiddies. Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
posted on December 10, 2002 12:40:55 PM new
I am neither a homophobe nor a homophile - I just don't see any point in concerning myself with what consenting adults decide to do behind closed doors. Of the homosexuals that I've met or worked with, it boggles my mind to hear anyone try to sterotype any of them, as if sexual persuasion has much to do with personality.
posted on December 10, 2002 01:12:55 PM new
Frankly, I don't have any homosexual friends. Or, for that matter, heterosexual friends either. I just don't divide people up that way. I just divide them up as:
People I know
People I haven't met yet
Republicans
Okay, sorry about that last category....
And, as I get older, those who I think I know but can't remember their names. This group is getting big!
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posted on December 10, 2002 01:19:06 PM new
Is Falwell one of your friends?
This little purple toy which sounds like a boy and carries a purse was denounced by Jerry Falwell as " gay" a few years ago.
It was designed to appeal to 3-4 year old children. I wonder if Falwell will have a comment about the new comic books?
FALWELL'S NEWSPAPER CLAIMS TELETUBBIES CHARACTER IS GAY
ROANOKE, Virginia. (AP) -- The Rev. Jerry Falwell has suggested that Tinky Winky, the purple, purse-toting character on television's popular "Teletubbies" children's show, is gay.
A spokesman for Itsy Bitsy Entertainment Co., which licenses the Teletubbies in the United States, said the purse is actually Tinky Winky's magic bag.
"The fact that he carries a magic bag doesn't make him gay," Steve Rice said. "It's a children's show, folks. To think we would be putting sexual innuendo in a children's show is kind of outlandish."
The February edition of the National Liberty Journal (NLJ), edited and published by Falwell, contains an article warning parents that the rotund Teletubby with the triangular antenna may be a gay role model.
To support its claim, the publication says Tinky Winky has the voice of a boy but carries a purse. "He is purple -- the gay- pride color; and his antenna is shaped like a triangle -- the gay- pride symbol."
The teletubbies (from left) Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa-Laa and Po in a 1998 publicity photo
Falwell contends the "subtle depictions" are intentional and issued a statement Tuesday that said, "As a Christian I feel that role modeling the gay lifestyle is damaging to the moral lives of children."
The British show aimed at toddlers began airing on U.S. public television stations last spring. The Teletubbies are portrayed by actors in oversized, brightly colored costumes. They all have television screens on their tummies.
Rice said Falwell was attacking "something sweet and innocent" to further his conservative political agenda.
Falwell's spokeswoman, Laura Swickard, said the founder of the now-defunct Moral Majority agreed with everything that was in the NLJ article and would not comment beyond his one-paragraph statement.
Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
posted on December 10, 2002 06:36:36 PM new
Back to the point, though. This isn't some questionable kids' content. The Rawhide Kid is definitely gay, and is intended to be perceived that way. I think this subject is surprising because it takes a fairly irreverent approach to what for many (like me) is a cherished institution. I could care less about the politics.
posted on December 10, 2002 07:54:23 PM new
I think that it will hurt Marvel Comics in the long run. The Religious Right will go to War with Marvel over this and their movies, line of toys, games, and other assorted investments, not just comics sales will dwindle downwards. Disney has taken a *HUGE* hit in their revenue because of a general boycott because they don't discriminate against homosexual employees. Marvel Comics is not that well placed finanacially and will likely be harder hit.
posted on December 10, 2002 08:01:23 PM new
It sounds cheesey to me. The stereotypical-ness of the portrayals of gay people is getting old. I wonder if nothing was mentioned about this character, would anyone have really noticed, or cared?
posted on December 11, 2002 06:21:08 AM new
Just imagine if he joins the Lustice League and starts giving the other members fashion tips....
"Come on now Superman, Batman and Robin.....wearing our underpants on the outside of our tights is so..so..so five minutes ago. Maybe somthing in a plum?"
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