posted on December 12, 2002 07:30:42 AM new
This doesn't surprize me a bit, other than the information was able to leak out to the Internet about it. This isn't the first of troubling reports that we've heard from Afghanistan: reports about how the Warlords have all gone back to their usual disputes; how the Warlord that Bush placed into office as "El Presidente'" only control the main city of Kabul; how Al-Queda is back in force and this time, they are prepared to do whatever it takes to dislodge, kill, main, and destroy Americans.
Where's Bush's attention?
Saddam. Making sure that the Bush Family's Favorite Pet Kicking Dog is taking a severe beating.
Pathetic.
This is what Americans get for being so stupid as to try to place a person into the White House who had NO Foreign Policy experience. Expecting Dick Cheney to run the Foreign Affairs department was also a stupid idea, since he's too ill to do much of anythng except try to live one more day.
posted on December 12, 2002 10:11:18 AM new
PLeaseeeeee.... Clinton had more foreign policy than Bush or Carter put together has... but considering that Carter had no back bone... well Bush can easily beat that.
posted on December 12, 2002 11:31:40 AM new
>No foreign policy? How much experience in foreign policy did Clinton or Carter have.....NONE.
Bush wasn't running against them. Gore was. Gore would have madce a much bettr President by far, as far as foreign policy concerns go. We probably would still have a great economy and our civil rights intact to boot.
posted on December 12, 2002 11:36:36 AM new
>More like an unsubstantiated rumor, created to cause more anti-Bush sentiment among the Bush haters.
No. Actually, there have been a few reports directly from Afghanistan. Those are the ones that I am mentioned above. If Bush doesn't like it, then he can start to allow American journalists complete access to what is going on over there. Ever since 9-11, he's blocked off access to the action from the media -- no more Viet-Nam reporting to upset everyone during the dinner hour! Oh, no! Nice, clean War, where Americans win all of the time and no one on our side gets hurt. Right?
Stupid!
Let BUsh open up access to the fronts and to the whole rthing and then let's see how things really are. How nice of him to keep us from learning how badly we'rre doing in Afghanistan. Those problems come from the stupid, arrogrant thinking of our millitary and political leaders. Blame it all on Bush!
posted on December 12, 2002 01:05:06 PM new
Gore?? Don't make me laugh. He still doesn't even know who HE is yet.....keeps redefining himself.
In an interview this week, with Chris Mathews, Gore said the economy was headed downward in March of 2000. Which is correct.
If we'd gone to war with Afghanistan under his administration [shudder at that thought] we'd still have incurred the costs of this war against terrorism that has greatly affected our economy. If he had chosen not to root out the terrorists then the A-Q may have, once again, taken that as a another sign of weakness on our part.
And Borillar - American journalists are being trained by the military so they can travel with the troops.
posted on December 12, 2002 01:20:06 PM new
Appears that there's just nothing that's going to make you happy. First you mis-state that they're not being allowed to go, then when I show they are....you still gripe.
GORE....
And as for his (Clinton) record as president, you know the statistics. We had the strongest economy in the entire history of the United States of America.
We had peace, prosperity, advances on every front. I am proud to have been a part of that administration and proud to have been able to do battle during those times when they were trying to run him out of town on a rail and in a very unjust way.
.........................
GORE: It’s an interesting analysis. You know, the markets started down, the economy started down in March of 2000, and in spite of all the good news, still I felt we could do better, and I think most Americans like to look to the future with optimism and hope and they want all campaigns to be about how we can get a better future, and so I don’t know. I’m interested in what you say, but I think to focus on how to make for a better future is probably smarter and better in the best interest of the American people rather than simply patting ourselves on the back for what’s come before.
I think that’s important to show the distinction between what our policies were and what the other alternative was. Now they’ve had a chance to put their policies in place, and the comparison is pretty stark. I think the Bush-Cheney economic policy is a catastrophe for the country.
posted on December 12, 2002 02:29:40 PM newBack to the topic, Linda Acting as thread police again, are you. I was addressing a couple of statements Borillar made. If he hadn't brought them up, I wouldn't have responded. You want to mention to him that he was 'off topic'.
When a person makes a statement that, in part, states they are verifying it as a fact. You keep harping on this 'out of context' issue. Again, doesn't change what he said. The market started down in March 2000. Period!!! That's an admission that things were BEGINNING to decline at that time.
Gore: I think that's important to show the distinction between what our policies were and what the other alternative was. Now they've had a chance to put their policies in place, and the comparison is pretty stark. Yeah....like ignoring the fact that N Korea was building WMD and doing nothing about the attacks made on our country. And on the economy....they didn't have to deal with the aftermath of the WTC bombing either. A little different case...very hard to fairly compare the two.
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 12, 2002 02:32 PM ]
posted on December 12, 2002 03:00:11 PM new
LOL! When Helen said to Linda, "Linda, You're taking words out of context again," at first I seriously thought that she was referring to how Linda just took my words out of context!
posted on December 12, 2002 03:03:27 PM new
Helen - You were the one who first brought up Clinton's name. I was speaking about Gore; what he had said; what it might have been like under his administration and YOU brought up clinton.
posted on December 12, 2002 03:04:25 PM new
CLINTON's Foreign Policy? He never had time to creat one. He was too busy apologising for all his lies here at home.
Well , it looks like we won't have to deal with Gore(ing) in 2004. He finally realizes he wouldn't have a chance anyway.
posted on December 12, 2002 11:39:17 PM new
Probably. What the Democratic Party needs to do is to dissolve and the Republicans Pretending to Be Demcorats So That They Can Get Elected can go back to the Republican Party and the rest of them can figure out where exteremeist leftist need to go to get grass roots support. Basically, a new Party of the People needs to come forward with more than just campaign promises.
posted on December 13, 2002 04:31:24 AM new
Now even the religious right is upset about the Afghanistan situation. pat Robinson's 700 Club reported that the leader we installed has announced that Islamic Shiera (sp)is now the law of the land and has imported a radical muslim cleric to run the courts. There have also been men throwing acid on women no covering and attacks on the girls schools. All this done compliments of the American taxpayers.
