posted on January 30, 2003 05:33:04 PM new
TWELVEPOLE has a keen sense of humor and most of his posts are sarcasm and leg-pulling. It makes him giggle to death, no doubt, when someone takes his posts the wrong way. Sorry to let the cat out of the bag, TWELVEPOLE, but some people think that you actually side with what you post.
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posted on January 30, 2003 05:47:30 PM new
I apologise for offending any of you Good people, my intention is to give an insight into some shocking truths to some that are not ‘good’.
Regardless of 12poles’ intentions behind his postings, the fact it seems, is that most do embrace the hypocrisies which I have outlined, and he IS guilty of perpetuating them, as they are.
posted on January 31, 2003 12:06:50 AM new
TWELEVEPOLE likes to post the "gist" of the sentiment expresed by groups of people. If we are talking about the Ku Klux Klan being highly integrated with the Republican Party, he might have a "HANG ALL MINORITIES" shout. It is not necessesarily his own opinion, but his observation about the thread topic of parts of the conversation. Austinbounty need not feel too embarrassed, as it is easy to make the same mistake. No doubt, TWELVEPOLE is laughing his a$$ off about the whole thing. I wouldn't worry about it, Austinbounty.
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posted on January 31, 2003 07:45:32 AM new
Austbounty...America is not perfect and there have been wrongs in our past, many of which we are paying for now and have been trying to correct. It is easy to sit Down Under and take potshots at us. I am part Native American myself, as are a lot of Americans. Actually, the U.S. government does give monetary "reparations" to Native Americans. I guess we could give the WHOLE COUNTRY back to 100% full-blooded NA's and the rest of us could move to Australia. Oh,
the last I looked, Australia had a much stricter (and racist)immigration policy than the U.S. You would probably tell the Black People to go to Africa,sorry. Maybe we could all stay on welfare till we got used to it down there.
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"Do you sit back and watch Oil Prices fluctuate out of America’s Control?"
I think that is the least of America's worries. We are hijacked and blackmailed on oil prices anyway.
You speak of the $1K-20K per family cost of the possible war...that's probably the most irrelevant part of your whole post. When you are under attack, you don't worry about what the bullets cost. Besides inaction will have its costs too, and probably greater ones. If Sydney had been attacked, your tune might be different. Then again, maybe not.
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"You charge the Muslim States with being fanatics for having hate for Americans which you see as a crime against humanity, and yet you ‘hate’ them."
America has been Mr. Nice Guy and "turned the other cheek" many times and probably too much. Most Americans don't want war and never have. I guarantee, we would rather be in an isolationist position if we could. Historically we have been dragged into many of them by the rest of the world.
I shudder to think what this world would be like if the U.S. collapsed or "just went away". I believe there would be chaos, half the world would starve and most of the world would be at war within a short period of time. Who would "stablize" it?? Australia? Europe? China? Oh, I get it. IRAQ.
posted on February 1, 2003 07:27:05 AM new
What was this thread in reference to, anyway?
Austbounty speaks of twelvepole being the only true Patriot and all the rest of us are Hypocrites. I know that. But was he speaking of another specific thread here, or just about twelvepole in general?
posted on February 1, 2003 09:17:02 AM new
bones21 - If Sydney had been attacked, your tune might be different. Then again, maybe not. Very true statement. NO one completely understands until their country experiences a 9-11.
But I did read how upset the Aussies were when their citizens were killed in Bali by the terrorists. And Australia IS sending troops to support the US against Iraq.
posted on February 1, 2003 10:05:05 AM new
Linda K.
(By the way, you are one of my favorite posters.)
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Oh no, I KNOW Australia is an ally. I think, though, that AustBounty is not. I wonder if he is even from Australia. Who knows?
And yes, the Australians in Bali and many others have been hit by these terrorists. It's sad that the UN is run by Marxists that hate the U.S. or it might be a useful organization in this dilemma. I guess most of us will have to wait and see what happens.
posted on February 1, 2003 11:52:27 AM new
DEADEND ??
What a chickenblank way to end a post !!
(By removing it.)
Started out calling us all Hypocrites by enumerating every conceivable wrong that our ancestors have done (some of which are debatable), and to then not respond to any of the comments that he/she knew that they would elicit !
posted on February 1, 2003 12:21:01 PM new
Yeah,and you can get into deep poo-poo from fellow posters for removing the original post,Thats what I hear anyway...
posted on February 1, 2003 03:21:58 PM new
Helenjw,
Thanks for directing me to the ACNielsen site. (Not so much for the Australian poll results, but for another article I found.) I had to clarify that.
Here's an interesting article they had if you think the "rest" of the world doesn't have "worries" too. We are all being "pushed" into this. Again, I wish the U.N. was the organization that it was meant to be, but it is run by Marxists that are not on our side. To paraphrase our President, you are either with us or against us. There really is no neutral ground, I'm sorry.
Interesting article from Italy. Sounds like it was a close call.
posted on February 1, 2003 03:29:49 PM new"I apologise for offending any of you Good people, my intention is to give an insight into some shocking truths to some that are not ‘good’."
Hmmm, now let me get this straight....you are from Australia and lend us insight into something you know absolutely nothing about, and then apologize for offending some of us?
I don't think nearly as many are offended as those who are doubled over laughing
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"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
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posted on February 1, 2003 03:49:35 PM new
Bones21
I'm not familiar with the New Age paper but if that story is true, it's certainly great news! We should be searching for other groups like that rather than going to war with Iraq.
I'm a little confused about your first sentence. I hope that I didn't lead you to believe that I think "the "rest" of the world doesn't have "worries" too. Of course the rest of the world has problems!
In fact,terrorists are all over the world in 52 countries, including the United States.
When George Bush says you're either with us or against us, he is dead wrong. By saying this, he is rejecting all viewpoints other than his own, which is to go to war with Iraq. It has not been established that Iraq had anything to do with Al Qaida or the group that was responsible for the 9/11 terrorism.
posted on February 1, 2003 04:09:04 PM new
I guess we'll all have to wait and see what transpires in the next couple of weeks. The UN has a tremendous responsibility on its shoulders to make Hussein comply. He has had 12 years to come clean. It really is up to him whether there is war or not. And, he is our enemy and an enemy of peace. Peace is what the world wants (me, too!) but some people have to be forced into it.
Oh, and the paper was "The Age", not "New Age", I don't believe in that stuff...
I think they are down in Australia.
Have a great day!
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posted on February 1, 2003 04:47:18 PM new
The gas attack on the kurds happened in 1988. Incidentally, in order to disperse this gas he used helicopters given to him by the Reagan administration.
The chemicals and gas were obtained also from the United States.
Saddam is a batard. but at the time, he was friendly with the US.
posted on February 1, 2003 05:49:27 PM new
We gave Churchill weapons during WWII, but he didn't turn around and use them against his own people. Hussein should be compared to Stalin (we also gave him weapons). Both were "strange bedfellows" and neither was ever truly a friendly "ally".
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