Helenjw
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posted on February 1, 2003 06:29:30 AM new
Space shuttle down.. communication lost and multiple trails..Looks like a disaster.
The landing was planned today in Florida but communication lost over texas.
The seven returning crew members were six Americans and Israel's first astronaut, Ilan Ramon
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CBlev65252
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posted on February 1, 2003 06:54:06 AM new
How very, very sad! My prayers go out to the men for their survival and to the families that must be suffering terribly right now.
Cheryl
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reamond
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posted on February 1, 2003 06:55:04 AM new
Looks like a catastrophic failure with debris falling out of the sky.
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colin
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posted on February 1, 2003 06:59:40 AM new
God Bless the Astronauts and Their Families.
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Helenjw
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posted on February 1, 2003 07:02:41 AM new
What a tragic disaster.
People in Texas are being warned not to touch debris or pieces. People in Texas are reporting explosive sounds and debris.
Possible causes are being mentioned.
Terrorism, although mentioned is stated as very unlikely.
On launch day, a piece of insulating foam on the external fuel tank came off during liftoff and was believed to have struck the left wing of the shuttle.
Leroy Cain, the lead flight director in Mission Control, had assured reporters Friday that engineers had concluded that any damage to the wing was considered minor and posed no safety hazard.
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snowyegret
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posted on February 1, 2003 07:05:41 AM new
Awful news.
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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reamond
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posted on February 1, 2003 07:12:18 AM new
First Israeli on board and two woman (not just men CBlev !).
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Helenjw
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posted on February 1, 2003 07:17:58 AM new
Profiles of Space Shuttle Columbia Crew
Rick Husband
Willie McCool
Kalpana Chawia
David Brown
Michael Anderson
Laurel Clark
Ilan Ramon
[ edited by Helenjw on Feb 1, 2003 07:32 AM ]
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CBlev65252
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posted on February 1, 2003 07:27:31 AM new
Reamon - Thanks for pointing out my error! I, of course, meant men and women. Somedays it just doesn't pay to leave your nice warm bed!
Again, what a tragedy!
Cheryl
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canvid13
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posted on February 1, 2003 07:45:04 AM new
"God Bless the Astronauts and Their Families."
Don't you think they've been blessed enough today?
My gosh what a stupid thing to say.
For the rest of their lives these poor families will have their "Blessing" of today burnt into their minds eye.
God had nothing to do with this.
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trai
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posted on February 1, 2003 07:46:38 AM new
Its a sad loss for the families and the space program. Let us hope they find out where the failure was.
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Helenjw
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posted on February 1, 2003 07:56:46 AM new
The space shuttle Columbia crew, from left, mission specialist Kalpana Chawla, payload commander Michael Anderson, pilot William McCool, commander Rick Husband, mission specialists Laurel Clark and David Brown and Israeli asrtronaut payload specialist Ilan Ramon pose for a picture at the Kennedy Space Center landing strip in Cape Canaveral, Fla. upon their arrival Sunday Jan. 12, 2003. Columbia was over north-central Texas when mission control lost contact and tracking data, Saturday, Feb. 1,2003.
(NASA Photo)
February 1, 2003
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wgm
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:01:17 AM new
helen, thank you so much for including the photos and information on the crew.
I can't even begin to express how this feels right now - I guess I am one of the millions of Americans that are shell-shocked...
edited to add - canvid13, what a rude comment!
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
[ edited by wgm on Feb 1, 2003 08:02 AM ]
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bear1949
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:02:44 AM new
My hope is that they never say it comming and felt nothing when it happened.
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trai
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:08:19 AM new
wgm
Do a little research on canvid13 and you will find that this is nothing new for him. A pile of manure has more class.
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canvid13
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:15:11 AM new
It's a sad day. I just don't feel that any sanctomonious bs is worthy of what these poor families are feeling right now.
I can assure you that those kind of comments aren't helping them now.
Their lives have changed forever and there's nothing that anyone of us or anyone else can do to help them.
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bunnicula
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:21:03 AM new
Canvid, people who believe in religion and a god *do* draw comfort from their beliefs--and from the prayers of others who share those beliefs.
Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
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canvid13
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:26:49 AM new
Yes, and people who have beliefs also wage war, blow up people that don't believe the same as others, etc. You know, wacky leaders of country's claiming God is on their side and crap like that.
As someone that doesn't believe anyone on this planet has a clue or that anyone that ever lived on this planet has ever had a clue to whatever there is out there I just am tired of this stuff.
I'm upset too about what happened this morning.
Maybe it's your God telling you that he/she isn't happy with current US policy?
Maybe God isn't happy about the Mideast?
Maybe something just went wrong and these poor people lost their lives and their families will be scarred by it for the rest of their lives?
So when I'm grieving and upset, and I see someone say something as perpostrous about being blessed after they've been blown up into bits and pieces in a fireball I get more upset.
It's a very sad day.
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bunnicula
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:32:00 AM new
Canvid: being upset, as we all are, does not give you the right to lash out at others. BTW, the god referred to is not "my" god. I am an athiest and have no such belief.
Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
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Helenjw
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:35:19 AM new
I'm sure that we are all equally saddened by this event regardless of our belief or non belief in religion.
Helen
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neonmania
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:36:20 AM new
::Terrorism, although mentioned is stated as very unlikely. ::
Did NASA ever believe this or did some idiot TV commentator mention it during the past two hours of constant coverage where they ran out of thing to say after the first 10 minutes?
I was just so relieved to know however exactly where the President and Vice President were, what they were doing and who they were informed by. I know the first quesion that came to my mind when I heard about this was .... OMG! Where is Dick Cheney?
Don't these people understand that two hours of babble numbs people to reality of the situation?
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wgm
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:36:34 AM new
thank you for pointing that out, trai - I see that now.
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
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canvid13
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:38:45 AM new
Bunni if you are an atheist you have a belief. You have to believe that there is no God to be an atheist, thus a belief.
And you are right. I'm sorry for lashing out. I just saw another board full of this God nonsense and lost it when I saw it at the roundtable. I thought this forum was a bit less right wing and a bit more advanced in thought and understanding.
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Helenjw
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:52:36 AM new
neonmania
The mention of terrorism was mentioned in several news stories and by TV commentators but as I pointed out earlier, it was discounted.
I don't understand your concern about Cheney as it relates to this tragedy?
Helen
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Helenjw
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posted on February 1, 2003 08:55:28 AM new
Canvid
Those were the days my friend.
Helen
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neonmania
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posted on February 1, 2003 09:26:34 AM new
Helen - I was being sarcastic. Pointing out how ridiculous the special break to White House correspondents updating us on who was updated, where and by whom are. In my opinion this type of gratuitus reporting trivializes the greater event.
Additionally I don't think anyone over the the IQ of 27 believes that terrorists we able to blow of the Space Shuttle over Texas but every time I flip channels I hear some twit mentioning terrorists ( even when you are ruling it out the fact that it is ALWAYS being mentioned is inflamitory ).
(Interesting that 3 of the 5 spanish stations I pick up from across the border are also running constant coverage.)
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colin
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posted on February 1, 2003 09:26:38 AM new
canvid13,
Sorry my comment upset you. I didn't say they were blessed by the tragic event. You took it on yourself to twist the words around.
What gave me a second of comfort, wishing a blessing on the crew and their families, Is of no concern to you.
You insignificant pile of snake dung.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
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junquemama
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posted on February 1, 2003 09:27:29 AM new
Don't shoot me...Im guessing it was a man made error,made while Mercury was retrograde.
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Helenjw
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posted on February 1, 2003 09:40:51 AM new
Thanks for that clarification, neonmania!
I agree!
Helen
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Linda_K
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posted on February 1, 2003 09:43:14 AM new
A tragic, tragic accident. God Bless them all.
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