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 REAMOND
 
posted on February 14, 2003 12:25:53 PM new
Do you suppose he or some other "Eeee van gel list" will say that it is god's punishment for being a liar and an a%^hole his whole life ?

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31031



 
 bunnicula
 
posted on February 14, 2003 12:44:10 PM new
I wouldn't wish that on anybody. But, since he thinks that everything happens as a reward or punishment from his god for how someone lives their life, this is the time for Robertson to take a long look at how he's lived his own. By his own philosophy his god is trying to tell him something.
Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
 
 REAMOND
 
posted on February 14, 2003 12:56:15 PM new
Robertson will spin it thus-- he will be operated on and then will be "cancer free" and it will be a miracle from god.

But I also have to wonder, he always is doing cures on his show-- I Have a message from god for someone who has a ________ (fill in the blank). Ask god to heal you. People call in and say they were healed through his "word of knowledge"

Why is he going to a hospital or a doctor ? He should heal himself !!!

 
 Borillar
 
posted on February 14, 2003 01:08:42 PM new
>Robertson will spin it thus-- he will be operated on and then will be "cancer free" and it will be a miracle from god.

Yah. I thought so too!



 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 14, 2003 01:11:48 PM new
That's sad news for him and his family no matter what his beliefs are. I prayed to my God to help him, but he told me he didn't know who I was talking about.


 
 gravid
 
posted on February 14, 2003 02:06:17 PM new
He will probably need some real heavy duty pledges to be cancer free................

 
 Borillar
 
posted on February 14, 2003 03:53:58 PM new
If he really does have cancer and it's not just a TV Evangelist publicity stunt, then he is in big trouble. And if he is cured, will he see it as a message from God to change his ways?



 
 Linda_K
 
posted on February 14, 2003 04:13:29 PM new
This is a very common surgery for men his age. If the cancer didn't grow outside the prostrate, which this article says it hadn't, then his prospects are good.

Didn't Senator John Kerry just have this same surgery done? I believe so.

Hope you all are praying for him also

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on February 14, 2003 04:32:53 PM new
Robertson has a surgeon who has pioneered the relatively new technique of radical laparoscopic prostatectomy in the United States and his cancer generally has a 95% cure rate.

But Robertson's cure will, without a doubt, be the result of prayers and God's grace.

Helen



[ edited by Helenjw on Feb 14, 2003 04:35 PM ]
 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on February 14, 2003 04:49:25 PM new
All cures and remissions are a miracle!



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 Helenjw
 
posted on February 14, 2003 04:59:53 PM new

Amen and Glory Hallelujah!!!!



 
 REAMOND
 
posted on February 14, 2003 05:33:17 PM new
So what do we call it when children and people die without a "miracle" cure ? God's will ? Jesus doesn't care about you ?

It is a grave mistake to ascribe things that are naturally caused to supernatural gods. It looks rather scum laden when good and/or very pious people die and suffer because that couldn't get a "miracle".

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on February 14, 2003 05:57:39 PM new
REAMOND

With my "Amen and Glory Hallelujah!!!!"
reply, I was joking, as you can see if you read my previous post.

I don't believe in divine intervention.


Helen

 
 REAMOND
 
posted on February 14, 2003 06:01:48 PM new
Helen, you are too gracious. I wasn't referring to your post.

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on February 15, 2003 12:16:57 PM new
wow, I do apologize Reamond.

I don't have the answers to those questions

I only know, being on the receiving end of those situations, lost mother when child, lost one of my own children, and then being helped myself with todays medical advances, I have a belief that some don't have, and also cannot explain the losses or the hope.

I am sorry that personal beliefs have to get intermingled into these posts.








Art Bell Retired! George Noory is on late night coasttocoastam.com
 
 colin
 
posted on February 15, 2003 12:34:58 PM new
I for one, hope and will give a prayer for the Rev. Pat Robertson health. I still think he's an A**Hole.

Amen,
Reverend Colin

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on February 15, 2003 12:38:25 PM new
Colin I don't really care for Robertson myself either. But of course wouldn't wish this on anyone.

I do have a great respect for Billy Graham though, I think he is for real


Art Bell Retired! George Noory is on late night coasttocoastam.com
 
 neonmania
 
posted on February 15, 2003 12:42:41 PM new
Which was the one that god was going to kill if he didn't raise X amount of dollars?

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 15, 2003 12:45:23 PM new
Just maybe, good and bad things that happen to everyone, are nothing more than random acts. It makes a bit more sense than a God that gives out punishments and miracles to a chosen group.


 
 Helenjw
 
posted on February 15, 2003 12:51:49 PM new


You don't need to apologize, NearTheSea. I replied as I did because I didn't know if you were joking or not and I wanted to avoid a religious argument. We all cope with life's slings and arrows in our own individual ways.

Helen

 
 colin
 
posted on February 15, 2003 01:04:33 PM new
neonmania,
I believe that was Orel Roberts, He went into a tower or something and wouldn't come out, said God would come and get him if he didn't raise 2 million (or was it 8) dollars. Apparently he got the money.

I too tried this. I went into my Garage and said God would come and get me if I didn't raise $76.93. I got hungry and came in the house a couple of hours later. I just couldn't hold out. Never got the $76.93 but God pointed me to the empty beer cans under the work bench and I did raise $3.60. It was a start and I was on my way.

Amen,
Reverend Colin


 
 Linda_K
 
posted on February 15, 2003 01:52:23 PM new
ROFLMHO Colin - Had I only known. I would have contributed to your 'garage' fund.

 
 neonmania
 
posted on February 15, 2003 02:14:11 PM new
Found it...
In March 1986, he (Oral Robaerts) said God told him to raise $8 million from followers or his life would be forfeited by the end of March 1987…

On April 1, Roberts announced that the money had been raised and that his life had been spared.

Can you imagine how much he could have raised taking PayPal over the internet

 
 Roadsmith
 
posted on February 16, 2003 01:59:11 AM new
Neathesea: I'm with you about Billy Graham. The man who has for many years sung in his crusades, George Beverly Shea, was a family friend of ours. My dad and Bev Shea met while going to Moody Institute in Chicago in the early 1930s. Both were Canadian emigres and both studied together for their U.S. citizenship. When my dad had churches in the Chicago area, Bev would come out, sing his wonderful songs, and then hang out at our parsonage eating cheese and crackers. I adored him, had a big picture of him on my closet door.

We've lost touch in the last 40 years, but I've always figured that, if Bev Shea is still part of the Billy Graham bunch, then Billy G. is on the up and up. Bev Shea has the kind of values that wouldn't allow him to stay with a shady, creepy organization.

 
 
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