krs
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posted on February 28, 2003 08:38:30 AM new
A resignation letter:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/27/international/27WEB-TNAT.html?pagewanted=print&position=top
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Helenjw
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posted on February 28, 2003 09:17:51 AM new
Magnificent! I wish that John Brady Kiesling's letter of resignation could be published on the front page of every newspaper in America.
Powell should offer a similar letter of resignation.
Helen
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junquemama
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posted on February 28, 2003 10:17:14 AM new
A honest man,has been found.
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gravid
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posted on February 28, 2003 12:53:38 PM new
That's one...............
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bear1949
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posted on February 28, 2003 01:12:36 PM new
What a great idea. President Bush should encourage all federal civil servants who oppose America's Iraq policy to resign in protest--thereby cutting the federal workforce and freeing up more money to pay for tax cuts and war.
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Borillar
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posted on February 28, 2003 01:17:25 PM new
"The policies we are now asked to advance are incompatible not only with American values but also with American interests. Our fervent pursuit of war with Iraq is driving us to squander the international legitimacy that has been America’s most potent weapon of both offense and defense since the days of Woodrow Wilson. We have begun to dismantle the largest and most effective web of international relationships the world has ever known. Our current course will bring instability and danger, not security. "
For those of you Bush Supporters, here it is summed up quite nicely for you. These are the results of your support for a presidential candidate with no foreign policy experience, no diplomatic experience, and not even a basic grasp of world geography.
And for those of you who say to that about the fact that Bush has "handlers" so it's all OK, look at how well that this doesn't work! To boot, "handlers" have made a gigantic mess and not many know who to even blame. I do. It's YOUR FAULT!
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Borillar
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posted on February 28, 2003 01:27:06 PM new
"The result, and perhaps the motive, is to justify a vast misallocation of shrinking public wealth to the military and to weaken the safeguards that protect American citizens from the heavy hand of government."
EXACTLY!
Another point to see is the crude and basic economic model that I wish to share with you. A business hires people to make widgets. The business pays people to make those widgets. The people then turn around and buy those widgets. The profit goes back to the business and the cycle repeats itself. Imagine an entire nation such as ours that does this and you get the very, very basic model of how our capitlaistic system works.
The millitary is another thing altogether. Profits (money) are siphoned off to purchase weapons and to train and pay a millitary. While the workers may make weapons, they do not buy them. The cycle does not repeat itself. While soldiers may get paid from the taxes, and they buy widgets, they do not make any widgets. Therefore, the millitary should NEVER be an economic role model. It is NOT capitalism! It is Millitarism, and it is all-consuming and DOES NOT create a healthy economy!
Of course, the millitary is necessary evil to ensure that the workers are safe to make widgets. But it should be kept to the absolute minimum. What we are doing now by funneling our Social Security Surplus into the Millitary and pet boondogles of this President is destroying our economy, not strengthening it!
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bear1949
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posted on February 28, 2003 01:38:39 PM new
For those of you Bush Supporters, here it is summed up quite nicely for you. These are the results of your support for a presidential candidate with no foreign policy experience, no diplomatic experience, and not even a basic grasp of world geography.
If you belive that to be true, show us Herr Clintons post presidential foreign policy experience, diplomatic experience and a grasp of world geography.
Clinton;s only experience in diplomacy come in the form of illecit post marrital affairs.
[ edited by bear1949 on Feb 28, 2003 01:40 PM ]
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REAMOND
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posted on February 28, 2003 01:43:05 PM new
"The following is the text of John Brady Kiesling's letter of resignation to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell. Mr. Kiesling is a career diplomat who has served in United States embassies from Tel Aviv to Casablanca to Yerevan."
Do you guys even know what a "career diplomat" is ?
This is like a janitor quiting his Post Office position after a "diagreement" with the Postmaster General's policy.
LOL !!
[ edited by REAMOND on Feb 28, 2003 01:43 PM ]
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Helenjw
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posted on February 28, 2003 02:01:16 PM new
"This is like a janitor quiting his Post Office position after a "diagreement" with the Postmaster General's policy."
If a janitor had similar concerns about the postal department, I believe that it would be just as admirable for him to take the same stance that the career diplomat did with Powell.
Kiesling makes a powerful statement with this letter.
Helen
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REAMOND
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posted on February 28, 2003 02:09:00 PM new
If you know what a career diplomat is you know there is nothing powerful about his statement.
Career diplomats have no say in policy, either is creating it or in stating it.
Career diplomats are people that got a higher score on a civil service exam and carry out non-policy level tasks. They are secretaries and paper shufflers, drivers, and valets for the appointed diplomats.
It is like the janitor at the Post Office quiting and writing a letter to the editor about how he disagrees with the price of stamps. Very powerful indeed.
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bear1949
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posted on February 28, 2003 02:41:26 PM new
In principal what he has done is as the old saying goes "Cut off his nose to spite his face".
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junquemama
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posted on February 28, 2003 02:44:52 PM new
So if janitor at the Post Office quits....
The N.Y. Post will print it?
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junquemama
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posted on February 28, 2003 02:47:10 PM new
And the posting of this letter,is the effects of Clinton?
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Helenjw
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posted on February 28, 2003 02:56:49 PM new
Reamond, whoever you are, you are a silly fool. You take any statement, twist it all to hell and then argue about it.
Now, you have the janitor quitting because of the price of stamps? How nutty is that.
Helen
[ edited by Helenjw on Feb 28, 2003 03:15 PM ]
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gravid
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posted on February 28, 2003 02:56:54 PM new
If even you could get enough janitors to quit it might do more real harm than diplomats.
If you could get a sizable chunk of secretaries to quit it would bring the government to its knees in days.
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Borillar
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posted on February 28, 2003 03:29:21 PM new
>Career diplomats have no say in policy, either is creating it or in stating it.
I KNOW Who it is writing under 'REAMOND' today -- it's Don Rumsfeld himself!
You know how Don always misdirects the issue? Look at the way that "REAMOND" talks and you'll see that they are identical.
For instance, what is important is not solely the position of authority, but that it is from a person of Integrity ~ something you know nothing about "REAMOND". That this person has had a chance to see first-hand the damage being done and the ill effects of the policies of this administration has upon the world community with respect to our desires, you can see just how badly the foreign relations and diplomacy has become a total disaster!
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